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Just kidding, I think it's very difficult to define what a franken is; specially if we consider that each model can be close to the real deal making some improvements that not always are the same. For a PAM dial and hands could be enought but if we're talking about rolex (specially vintage) you need to add a lot of gen parts (but not necessary the same always) to obtain a franken: movement+case redone+bracelet+dot insert=franken=dial+bracelet+whole bezel? Maybe a franken is just a watch with gen parts added that nobody except member here can distinguish from the real McCoy

And the last one is a piece of [censored], it only has a gen movement

Damn, according to that this one is a little franken 'cause it only has a gen dial and chrono hands Hopefully this one could be, gen movement, dial and hands :p

God Damn Tee, next time you go to Camposol drop me a PM, I use to be there once per week (I have a good relationship with the owners of the complex) and we will meet to play some holes in the golf or some time in the spa (which is one of the best one you can find in Spain). Glad you like it, I will tell it to the managers best, toni

Today this one: Saturday and sunday my newly updated 6265 and the whole next week again with this puppy but not at home, both will be in Moscow... (will try to remove the dust in the watch for the trip;))

Welcome board, nice country you live. I was there a couple of times this year (in Baku and Khudat as well) doing some business (have some friends there). Maybe I will be in Baku in spring '09 so we can organize a GTG in Mirvari restaurant which is a copy of the one we have here in Valencia (Spain) by the way Best, Toni

Well, my thoughts are to use it the whole week but.. who knows

Well, my small tribute: V72 in Phong case with gen crown, pushers, chrono hands and dial....

Hi mate, just unscrew the screw show in the pic but bu very very carefull cause if you turn more than necessary you will loose the plate located below the screw which is a really shame hope this helps Toni

Thanks too mates. unfortunately the gift to myself did not arrives on time, just like watcher's one but will post in the rolex section too) black, beyeler, 6265, tritium, o-t t-o, ... cant wait :)

and I bet that this one: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...52BSI%26otn%3D4 is another franken too (bracelet wrong and case strange) but I'm not a 1655 expert... I miss you Oli!! I couldn't see the model ref in the papers...

Well, as he stated in the description watch is fake: Quote: ------------------------------------- Model Name: Double Red Seadweller Ref: 1665/ 3522174 Gender: Men's Condition: Great Condition Case: SS Great condition Redone Movement: Cal 1570 100% Original (Good condition) Dial: Black dial with creamish patina Redone Bracelet/Strap: Original bracelet oyster 93150 (great condition) Crystal : Acrylic (Superb condition) Box / Papers: no ------------------------------------ end quote The only part he claims original is the bracelet and the movment!!!

sorry, quick reply without arguments... Phong's bezels (same as NdT) In current 1665 cases: In early 1665 cases: and mbw bezels: if you need more pics...just ask me

yes, no doubt

LOL, I learned with Randy... "Quality over quantity"... some jewelryandwatch eyecandy:

Pedro, I didnt see that case before but I can vouch for Phong quality if you're looking for a high-end parts. My last order was for a 6265 case and result couldnt be better (perfect redhaut, gen crown and pushers...). Just drop him a mail asking more pics to compare, in my case (3 cases purchased) what I saw was what I got. PM me if you need something. By the way, I was thinking yesterday about you do you have a gold patek rep or I'm wrong? (just send me a PM please) quick shots of my last 6265 case:

Sure: try Hong Quiao Market, 3 floors building plenty of reps (watches and clothes as well). hope this helps...

Thanks my friend, YES, Hirsch rally, very nive strap for a vintage look NO, V72 movement NO, frankentona

Putas todas... :lol: :lol: sorry mate, couldn't resist. For me some 6265 love... (need a replacement for the chrono hands... but still nice ) c'mon experts.. what do you think about that redhaut, is it similar to DW's?

Hi all, please can you tell me what model of citizen is this one as well as where can I find some info in the net. Thanks in advance, Toni

+1

Nato time

That's because that watch has a superluminova replacement dial, genuine but not the original...

Yep, dial is gen, as well as hands and insert... in fact the whole watch is gen except the case

and comex caseback as well...