Legend Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 At what point does PP realize this guy has a pattern? Is there no logic to how they settle disputes? Unfortunately, PP has traditionally been kinda dumb when it comes to this. Too much buyer protection, regardless of purchase disputes history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 There are so many unscrupulous sellers on EBay, I believe that PayPal had to go overboard to protect buyers, or at some point there would not be any buyers. Unfortunately, the pendulum as usual has swung too far to the side of the buyers, and now the sellers find that they are not being protected. It looks like PayPal with it's very sophisticated computer system could track disputes and flag those buyers who have opened more than one or two over a period of time. Of course the real "dyed in the wool" scammers like this guy that ripped off Matt or probably using multiple emails, multiple PayPal accounts and any other method that he can use to decrease scrutiny and keep his scamming game going for as long as he can. I hate this for Matt, as I said before he is really a nice guy, and he doesn't deserve to be robbed by some slimy little crook. Guys like this really make it hard, especially for newer members who are totally honest but haven't established their "Creds". Like I said before, USPS money order half up front, balance on completion, watch ships when the funds clear (Just in case the buyer tries to slip in a phony MO) !! I bought and sold vintage fountain pens for years, before PayPal and even before the internet got popular. I would send a MO, cashiers check and later if it was someone I had done business with for a while, personal checks, but the seller always waited until the funds cleared before the pens were shipped. Sad that we might have to go back to the old way of doing business, but if the crooks and scammers keep multiplying, I don't see many other choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
508-Fanatic Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Matt, how much did you lose? If there is anything I can do to mitigate your loss, I would be happy to! This is more than a polite offer. I have helped some guys here, and I would be happy to do the same for you. I second this, Matt I'd like to buy you a raffle ticket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhorn Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Thanks to MoaB and any of the other mods that got involved to help out. Stark contrast to the reactions elsewhere. Hope you get the watch back Matt. I'm sure you will find a willing buyer for it here if you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernow Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Matt, did you get your money back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 No he wont, if the scammer told Paypal the watch was a rep he will be refunded, keep the watch and Matt PP account will most likely be frozen. I've had it done to me too many times now. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymanmatt Posted April 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Yes, I got the money back. He withdrew the claim, just as quietly as he filed it. WEIRD!! The only reason I can think of, is because I agreed to a return of merchandise for a full refund. Maybe he was going to send an empty box. This is strange!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpz5142 Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Maybe he was going to send an empty box. This is strange!! This is why I video the opening of my packages, just incase it happens I have something to try and fight with... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 UPDATE: Matt provided email from his earlier dealings with the guy, and that email address was registered here for a different userID, "lvguy23" Also banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachcomber Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Scumbag Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernow Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Phew, good to hear that the money's been returned and hopefully the Paypal account is safe too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Yes, I got the money back. He withdrew the claim, just as quietly as he filed it. WEIRD!! The only reason I can think of, is because I agreed to a return of merchandise for a full refund. Maybe he was going to send an empty box. This is strange!! , :clap2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repfreak83 Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 That is f***** up! Little sneak should be strung up by his tiny balls! Glad to hear things worked out for you Matt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unreformed66 Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 I know I'm brand new here but I read this thread and wanted to throw my two cents in. I've been selling on Ebay since 1998. Once Ebay bought Paypal and required you to take it as a form of payment things started going downhill for sellers. A couple of years ago they basically kicked sellers in the nuts by taking the buyer's word for absolutely everything with no proof. I've had a few try to extort "discounts" from me by filing complaints saying the item wasn't as described. I've had them steal parts out of watches and replace them with their broken parts and file a claim that the watch was "broken". I pretty much hate people sometimes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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