danielv2000 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Posted November 19, 2014 I have a gen 5513/5514 dial for sale. I was contacted by a member here to buy it. He is not a newb but he's been here less than a year and has some activity and some trades. He's based in the EU but accepted to pay actual shipping costs. We agreed on a bank wire payment and I forwarded him my info. He then said the bank would not process because I was missing a iBan number which is not used in Canada. I sent him my PP info and agreed on a PP gift payment. He's gone AWOL. I won't flame him publicly just yet because he has not logged in since I sent him my info. I don't think he had buyers remorse. He now has my bank info, mailing address and PayPal Id. Luckily the bank account and PP were in no way linked. I have since closed the bank account, advised my bank and suspended my PP account which was empty anyways. Lesson learned. Trust your gut. I had a doubt about him and almost completed a separate deal but bad timing made that fall apart. I did a lot of searching on this person because it rang a bell. After I closed my bank account. I stumbled upon a PM he had sent me in the past for a case I was selling. He had requested my bank info but at that point, he was a brand new member. That's when I realized why his user name was familiar. At that time he told me he was UK based. This time, Italy based. Trust your gut guys. I just wasted 2 hours this week protecting myself. Anyone want to buy a dial?
dbane883 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Posted November 19, 2014 I keep a separate bank account strictly for receiving wires. But even with your bank account info and your PP email, what could he do with that? Log into your PP (by asking PP to reset the password using your banking credentials) and start transferring funds from your bank and send it to his own PP account?
TeeJay Posted November 19, 2014 Report Posted November 19, 2014 Sorry to hear, but that needs a naming. Keeping his name private may be the gentlemanly thing to do, but it also puts others at risk from similar transactions because they do not know who to avoid... If the member is indeed kosher and has legitimate reasons, they will be able to vindicate themself and no one will hold it against them, but as before, if no one knows who they are and they are a scammer... forum protection only works if we know who we're being protected from... I hope you can get everything resolved...
martijnp Posted November 19, 2014 Report Posted November 19, 2014 Sorry to hear. IBAN stands for International Bank Account Number and it's only in Europe so it's bullsh*t what the bank told the "buyer"
whoopy12 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Posted November 19, 2014 I keep a separate bank account strictly for receiving wires. But even with your bank account info and your PP email, what could he do with that? Log into your PP (by asking PP to reset the password using your banking credentials) and start transferring funds from your bank and send it to his own PP account? Can you really do this?? I hope they'd need more than just some banking info to reset your password. Also, you'd be sent an email notification, so you'd know if anyone was trying to 'hax' into your account.
danielv2000 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Posted November 19, 2014 iBan is not used in Canada. We use a Swift code which I did provide to him. I am not sure what he can do. He can try to hack into my PP account hoping it was linked to my bank account which it's not. Either way, PP has been such a pain for me these days that if they dared have a security breach after all the headaches they have given me, I think I would sue! The only thing he can do is use my identity for bad stuff! Like I said, he has not logged in since I last provided my PP info. I have already advised Mike on a Bike. I check his profile every day several times a day. When he does log in, he will see my PMs. If he chooses to ignore me, I will out him. As long as he does not log in, he cannot scam anyone. More to come, I am sure.
panermaniac Posted November 19, 2014 Report Posted November 19, 2014 Sorry your going through this. Keep us posted, mate.
Nanuq Posted November 19, 2014 Report Posted November 19, 2014 Please PM me the name of this guy too, so I can keep it simmering in the back of my mind.
MAHLER Posted November 19, 2014 Report Posted November 19, 2014 At that time he told me he was UK based. This time, Italy based. Italy based . Name?
prdubis Posted November 19, 2014 Report Posted November 19, 2014 iBan is not used in Canada. We use a Swift code which I did provide to him. I am not sure what he can do. He can try to hack into my PP account hoping it was linked to my bank account which it's not. Either way, PP has been such a pain for me these days that if they dared have a security breach after all the headaches they have given me, I think I would sue! The only thing he can do is use my identity for bad stuff! Like I said, he has not logged in since I last provided my PP info. I have already advised Mike on a Bike. I check his profile every day several times a day. When he does log in, he will see my PMs. If he chooses to ignore me, I will out him. As long as he does not log in, he cannot scam anyone. More to come, I am sure. Daniel, He may have already read your PM as he received an email notification with the content of your message.
Aero_Dave Posted November 19, 2014 Report Posted November 19, 2014 Daniel, He may have already read your PM as he received an email notification with the content of your message. True. So it might be better just to say his name, in case he still tries to 'get' someone else. He may have more than 1 login account / username anyways. Hopefully it is all just a misunderstanding. Dave...
Mike on a bike Posted November 20, 2014 Report Posted November 20, 2014 Guys I am aware as Daniel contacted me in regard first, looking over at RWI where he has been active.
Mike on a bike Posted November 20, 2014 Report Posted November 20, 2014 Could be something could not , maybe no cash but in any event contacted the Colonel over there for collaboration. Seems to be searching there also for parts for a build.
danielv2000 Posted November 20, 2014 Author Report Posted November 20, 2014 I PMd the individual on RWI as he has logged on there. He has obviously seen my PM there since he checked in after my PM but has chosen to ignore me. MOAB, thanks for coordinating with the Colonel. For some reason, no login here.
xpletiv Posted November 20, 2014 Report Posted November 20, 2014 Exactly! He might be a member on other forums that many members are also on. So 'naming' the perp should be the right thing to do. But i guess research may be needed before the gun is jumped.
GenTLe Posted November 20, 2014 Report Posted November 20, 2014 Italy based . Name? Not me guys, just to avoid misunderstanding:) Anyway with on line bank transfer forms it is sometimes a pita to make international transfers. I.e. my bank always asks for 3 things on the form: beneficiary, swifth (8 characters one) and Iban. Without these details you can't really move on there. Maybe using the phone call system you can (never tried) but still a pita
sgtguk Posted November 20, 2014 Report Posted November 20, 2014 Sorry to hear your having problems with this guy D but I for one would appreciate knowing his username mate I know here the banks use IBAN as transferring money back here when I was in Oz was a royal pita, he shouldn't be able to do much with your details but I think I'd have done the same and shut em down, please let us know how this pans out.......and if we can help in any way too
Mike on a bike Posted November 20, 2014 Report Posted November 20, 2014 Guys the Colonel is aware and will keep an eye on him over there, Nanuq and I are persuing some other possible leads. I would think if this is a misunderstanding he would come on and clear himself, you guys know you can read this section without signing in. PS at this point I will not name names as this could just be buyers remorse or lack of funds, my standards of burden of proof are high this protects you as well. I do not go off banning and nameing here without considerable deliberation and yes sometimes we get burnt , please read my sig. below. PSS Money we can make freedom is priceless.
danielv2000 Posted November 21, 2014 Author Report Posted November 21, 2014 Thanks for the support guys. I too am hesitant about naming him as there has been no loss on my side. I did send another PM informing him that I contacted the mods here, advised the bank to be on the lookout and advised PP as well. I will see if he responds to that new PM. It's amazing what a good reputation on these boards will get you. In the last 2 weeks I have sent several thousands to one member and received several thousands from another. Both well established and trusted members. Someone like the unnamed "buyer" will never be able to complete deals like this because of this type of behavior. You change your mind, that's fine. Man up or blame the wife, something. Just say, "sorry, i decided to pass." Disappearing makes me suggest something more was behind this...
daryn23 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Posted November 21, 2014 There is a member currently selling watches on here who has been banned at the other RWG for "shenanigans" and banned from selling at RWI
daryn23 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Posted November 21, 2014 There is a member currently selling watches on here who has been banned at the other RWG for "shenanigans" and banned from selling at RWI oh and at the geek too!!
danielv2000 Posted November 22, 2014 Author Report Posted November 22, 2014 No response from the "buyer" here or RWI and he has now gone AWOL on RWI - he hasn't checked in there sice my last PM.
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