edgematic Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 About a month ago, 2 watches I ordered from eurotimez were seized. Got a letter from the lawyer of Rolex, ignored it. (by ignoring it I agreed to destroy the watches) Now I got a letter from the Belgian Customs, they ask me to come to their head office so they can interrogate me... If I can't make it to their office I have to write a letter in which I state: - who bought these goods, or who sent them - how much I paid - If I know that it's illegal - If I want to let them destroy it I also have to add a copy of my ID etc. Any tips on this guys??? regards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarin.72 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Thats the first case i've ever heard of... I didn't know that Belgian customs are so tight... Bump... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkdk Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Just write them, that you have no clue what they are talking about. You didnt order anything illegal, from anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 I am a Belgin customs officer, I just read your post and now I have proof that you know you were buying a counterfit replica watch...so if you lie on your letter or during your interrogation you will be purgering yourself and we will charge you with this and other offences... Not a good idea to post this in the open, how do you know that Belgin or other Customs officers aren't logged into and members here?? RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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By-Tor Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 You should have paid extra (and wait extra) to get the watch shipped from EU. This is God knows... XXXth similar post in last 6 months, and it's almost becoming a daily occurance. What is so difficult in this? If you're in EU, especially in Scandinavian and Benelux countries don't get reps shipped to you from Asia. It's simple as that. Sorry to hear about those troubles though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonthebhoy Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Is the name and address on the package that Belgian customs have exactly accurate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkuhl2000 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Any tips on this guys??? regards Send them a large printout of your avatar picture and they'll forget all about it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Send them a large printout of your avatar picture and they'll forget all about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Im sorry to hear about your troubles Edge. However; I would have to agree with the Zig man. We dont know who we might have among us, Good luck. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider87 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Wow that's scary.... Hope all goes well let us know what happens.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corgi Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Ignore it... don't write anything... "what letter? I never got a letter..? Watch?!?! What the hell are you people talking about??" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweattdogg Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Deny it is your package and have future orders shipped to someone else, because your on the radar now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xelorrolex Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) Seized by customs .... From Eurotimez ? I though he was shipping from .... EUROPE Edited February 16, 2009 by xelorrolex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Deny ever ordering anything. say that it was send to you by mistake. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Seized by customs .... From Eurotimez ? I though he was shipping from .... EUROPE He ships from Asia unless you request shipping from Europe. It costs a few bucks more that way... and takes a while longer. But as we can see again, it's well worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Anytime anything (in the USA) is siezed it is due to improper paper work .. but the rule anywhere is "deniability" do not under any circumstances answer any letter or message of any kind... the dealer will usually replace the pieces. By answering any document you are acknowledging the facts that are being asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 If the letter was registered (you had to sign something to receive it), I would speak with a local lawyer to see what he recommends. My guess is that he will tell you to write them back saying you never ordered anything &, therefore, cannot assist them with their investigations. However, if you did not have to sign for the letter (it arrived with the rest of your daily mail), I would probably ignore it altogether. If, at some point in the future, they contact you again, just say you never received the letter & know nothing about it. If you did not sign for it, they cannot prove you ever received it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sander Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 If the letter was registered (you had to sign something to receive it), I would speak with a local lawyer to see what he recommends. My guess is that he will tell you to write them back saying you never ordered anything &, therefore, cannot assist them with their investigations. However, if you did not have to sign for the letter (it arrived with the rest of your daily mail), I would probably ignore it altogether. If, at some point in the future, they contact you again, just say you never received the letter & know nothing about it. If you did not sign for it, they cannot prove you ever received it. I think this is the best way to go. If it doesn't work and they come back to you, just do as Corgi says. I just think they want to scare the [censored] out of you so that you won't order again you nasty boy! They have more important thinks to do I believe.... Any way...good luck with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relox Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Since you need some legal advice and it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foggyhome Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 french customs are the same I had a package siezed last year and a fine of 300 euros be warned ,they only seem to go for EMS parcels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 ignore and deny everything, replying to any letter will only incriminate you further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbieG Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 I am a Belgin customs officer, I just read your post and now I have proof that you know you were buying a counterfit replica watch...so if you lie on your letter or during your interrogation you will be purgering yourself and we will charge you with this and other offences... Not a good idea to post this in the open, how do you know that Belgin or other Customs officers aren't logged into and members here?? RG Nah, he would be purgering nothing. He posts here under a surname and no good lawyer would ever let that get connected in court. Not that there is going to be a court case. Scare tactics - and they know it - both customs and Rolex, believe me. They have to catch you with the watch and taking possesion of the package to make a case. Those letters are toilet paper - both from Rolex and Customs. Don't respond at all. And to the OP and anyone else here - I'm sure I don't have to tell you or anyone else here to NEVER, and I mean never sign for a person to person Registered letter from anyone. Not even your Mother or even God! Those things are poison. And as a rule I won't sign for Certified's either unless I know who it is from. Nothing good can from signing anything that nails you down to a date and possesion of information. Registered and Certified letters are only used for one reason - to incriminate people by dating an event. If they are serious about prosecuting you, let them come and arrest you. But they won't because as I said you have never been in possession of the goods, nor do they have any paper trail connecting you to a crime. "Must have me confused with someone else sir" is the only response and only if you get arrested. Then call your lawyer who will countersue them both for libel and lost wages. Again, responding to a letter and saying you don't know what they are talking about is no good. Don't give them ammo for the future in case the shipper or someone or a witness or something on the other end is in heat and is ratting you out with a proof of order or something. You never know who might be trying to stick heat on you to get out of jail. Stranger things have happened. For that reason, make them arrest you. That way you haven't told a lie or the truth - just nothing. Let your lawyer handle it if it ever comes to that. But I guarantee unless you are distributing, which I assume you are not, it will never happen brother. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Most lawyers will tell you to do nothing.. don't speak to the police or customs and never ever put anything in writing. Anything you say or write can and will be turned against you. Why help them build a case against you? Make it entirely their job to do that. Remember they only want to speak to you to help build their case.. NOT to clear your name. They are NOT on your side. If, and only if, it goes to court should you present a defense.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowprofile Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 During the interrogation, when they say "bend over" and you hear the snapping sound of rubber gloves, tell them everything!!!! Seriously, plus 1 dont say anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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