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The 1665 caseback has the inscription on it- the 5513/1680 don't. You can give it a try- rafflesdials.com used to have plain casebacks- people would switch out a 1655 caseback for a GMT type of caseback- I never got that anal when I built my 1675 Pan Am.
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With a rafflesdial case it comes with the crown and tube so I see no point in installing another rep crown and tube. It also comes with a case back- I don't know if a gen case back will even fit, but what's the point? With a gen dial, first you have to cut the dial feet off flush. Next you can remove the day wheel and install the DWO- that's the tricky part- getting it aligned correctly. Glue the dial to the movement ring and then install the hands. Install the crown to the movement stem- you'll need to get the stem to right length- not too long or too short The rafflesdials case should come with a spacer ring. Remove the stem and crown and install the movement/dial with the spacer ring. With some movement tabs and screws you screw down the movement inside the case so it doesn't move around. Install the stem and crown. Make sure there's not dust in the case and put the case back on. Assuming it all checks out, you can install the bracelet and enjoy you new watch.
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An MBW case will be inscribed with 1665 and will say- Polex or Polfy somewhere- between the lugs or on the inside of the caseback. Monarch Polfy and Gelena Shitinerand also come to mind- typical MBW inscriptions. SN will be 5,7 to 5,9xx,xxx, being late 1978 or early 1979. But no one will ever see the inscriptions with a bracelet on and the caseback closed. The 5513 dial which you have isn't a very good one- the bottom serifs on the L and E in ROLEX are wrong as are the serifs on OYSTER PERPETUAL. Might check out the 5513 dials from Ruby, MQ and Phong.
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You could buy a complete rep but that's all I can think of. And I don't know about the size of a rafflesdials dial- you'd need to check that out- sometimes they run big.
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This why I've never built a TT 16613. I built a 16800 with a relumed dial and an ST case- around $700 and then when I figure in the 93150 which cost me $300 back in the day and you're still at a Grand. Here it is with a TC 93250 but I recently switched back to the 93150
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I'm thinking you want P46189- 4.0mm x 2.5mm. But you need to measure the top of the DW pushers to make sure that they're 4.0mm.
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VN dials are the usual suspects- Phong at jewelryandwatch.com MQ- vintagewatchesMQ.com Ruby- Rubyswatches.com Since you already have a VN dial, why not just get a gen coronet like off an old DJ. The pushers are a challenge- DW pushers are threaded at 2.5mm x .20 and replacement and gen pushers are 2.5mm x .25. So you'd have to tap the holes and install the new pushers. Maybe Ofrei has the correct pushers, don't know if CousinsUK has them or not. http://www.ofrei.com/page956.html I can't remember but maybe PD61.701 is the correct pusher.
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Well with that 84-85 dial from Bob's having no DATE on it you would have to figure that the OPD dial came after that- 86 or later I guess. I always refer to those applied markers as the dials with the white gold surrounds and it was around 1984 when Rolex introduced those dials and did away with the matte dials.
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Nice build! The similarities between the 1675 and the 16750 are many, like the bezel and bezel insert. I can't remember when Rolex added Date to the Oyster Perpetual 16750 dial, but it was somewhere in the 80s I would think. Amazing that your CHS eta has been trouble free. BTW, you can get a correct DWO from rafflesdials.com for the 16750- open6/9 and round top3s on a white background. Thanks for sharing the build details, I know it's a lot of work putting it together but it's sure fun to read. Building these old vintage models is getting harder all the time- the rep factories just keep turning out the new models and aren't supporting the older vintage reps that much these days.
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which model- 16610 or 116610?
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That bezel insert is a hoot! Movement looks to be a 72- should be a 727. And like everyone said, engravings, crown emblem on clasp, etc. Stay away!
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If you like the 1655 Explorer II, I'd recommend getting a rep first and see how you like it. https://www.pf-868.com/0-00rlex00104-vintage-explorer-ii-1655-ss-ss-blk-asian-2813.html I bought this model 5-6 years ago from Josh and the DG3804 GMT movement has held up well (josh refers to it as a DG2813, but it's really a DG3804). Or you could spend a few dollars more and get it with the Asian 2836-2 movement. To build one will be a challenge- I've been around for a while and I'm not even sure how I'd go about building one. Buying quality parts will be expensive, but that's what you'll need to do first and when you have all the parts together, then you can find someone to build it for you. Or you keep checking the sales forums here and on other rep sites and see if maybe you can find one already built for sale. I wouldn't recommend buying one with a Rolex 1575 GMT movement- you'll spend too much money and then you'll have to deal with keeping it serviced and running- the old Rolex movements are hard to find parts for these days. Good luck!
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Beautiful! Drilling those lugholes worked out well.
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I can't read the engravings on the back of the bracelet, but judging by the picture of the back of the bracelet with the case and movement, it looks like a flimsy old Rolex bracelet to me. The rivet copies are usually much heavier- not like the light old flimsy bracelet Rolex used to make in the 60s and 70s.
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I checked out your site http://www.watchesjob.com/girard-perregaux-worldwide-time-control-49800-0-52-1041d-automatic-watches.html And it looks like you can pay with a credit card. Of course that only means you ought to have some recourse with the credit card co. if something goes wrong. I can't tell what type of movement they put in these watches, but the WW TC looks like a complicated movement and for $248 or $258, you might end up with a quartz movement. I guess it comes down to how lucky do you feel? Good luck.
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Welcome aboard! I think you may be confused- the model 14000 Air King is a 34mm watch. The newer model- 116900 is 40 mm. https://www.trustytime02.cc/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_236&products_id=17424&zenid=8565abc6cc6b8de805dc36fe6b059a05 I don't know where you'd get the case by itself- might just be easier to buy the whole rep. Since it's a new model, parts aren't yet available for building one- you could always check ebay, but it typically takes a few years for the rep mfrs to catch up. It probably wouldn't be too hard to find 14000 Air King parts since that models been out for a long time. The 5500 AK has been out even longer- since 1960 or so, I believe.
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Given that you have a late model dial with the white gold surrounds, I would think a 93150 bracelet with 580 end pieces would be the appropriate bracelet. Your case looks nice- which one is it?
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You'd do better trying to find a 126710 with an A2836-2 movement and quit worrying about the correct handstack. The A3285 is just a modified 2836, but I've never heard anything good about it. https://www.intime05.co/rollie/5756-gmt-master-ii-126710-blro-red-blue-bezel-ss-black-dial-on-ss-jubilee-bracelet-a2836.html
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Since the Avenger Hurricane is an asian 7750, it might be worth it. My watchmaker won't mess with an asian 7750 and since the days of Ziggy, I haven't found anyone else in the CONUS or Canada who will work on an asian 7750. You can buy a replacement and have it swapped in, but who knows if that will work. Good luck!
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In transit a.k.a. "What you got incoming?"-thread
alligoat replied to hologramet's topic in General Discussion
Just got this Mathey Tissot Type 21 Flyback chrono. Mathey Tissot made the Type 20 and 21 chronos for Breguet and Girard Perregaux, who put their names on the dials. These were given to French flyers in the 50s and 60s. -
I'm not having any luck with your link and I'm not going to go to Trusty's site and try to find it. http://www.trustytime02.cc/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=39_205&products_id=20667 OK, when I cut and pasted it, it worked. Looks like a nice watch- for $248, you might as well go for it.
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I'd like to see a lume shot! For $259 it's a tad expensive, IMO. You can buy a Parnis with a Miyota for $100-125. Don't know if the Parnis would make 100 meters, but I never get past 125 feet these days anyway. Invictas with the NH35A aren't bad either for around $100, maybe less.
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A quick check of google and it looks like all 5 references use the V72C. Other than the hands on this chronograph being a little unusual, the watch looks fine to me. The 'anti-magnetique' curved around the the 6 o'clock subdial appears to be a later feature so maybe this watch is a 6236. Rolex quit making the triple dates in the middle 60s- guess they weren't a big seller. Of course, neither were the Daytonas that came after that.
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KJ2020 and I have both bought from TSWatch- but who's to say if they can be trusted. Kuvarsit isn't an approved dealer here at RWG either- sometimes you have to operate on the fringes and take your chances. Being in Italy/EU might also make it more difficult- I've never had a problem getting a watch here in the USA, but I've read that Customs are more difficult in the EU countries. I do agree that the dial on the TS Watch isn't that good
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Got it, thanks https://www.thevintagepower.cn/ref6542-gilt-dial-p0064.html Here's the one from TS Watch- looks to be a little more pricey