ubiquitous Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Heck... I don't mind if someone who buys my watch wants to try and make some money off of it. I priced it low enough so that if someone did want to resell for a few more bucks, they could do so with a straight face (with the presumption that it would be sold with full disclosure of origin, build, etc). But $40k?! That to me is just excessive. Shit... I felt that listing it at $4k was excessive (which is in the neighborhood of what I had into it)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky driver Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 I quite agree, all I can suggest, is maybe the person really needs the cash. Desperation can make people do stupid things, and principles do little when the wolves're at the door. Not saying that I condone what has happened, the seller has clearly abused the trust here, and that does nothing for the hobby, but given my own situation, knowing how tight money is, living hand to mouth between commissions, well, all I can say is I can understand what might drive someone to do something like this. (That is of course assuming that their situation is one of desperation... If it's just the greed of trying to flip a watch for profit, that makes it a different kettle of fish entirely and would mean a big :thumbsdown: for them...) there is no justification in trying to scam anybody like this...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchurch Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 If it is the same person they should be banned lol. I can't believe someone would do something like that there are some shady people out there I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Pretty poor show by the seller, does he want to own up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 I quite agree, all I can suggest, is maybe the person really needs the cash. Perhaps, but the five-week interval between buying a very expensive rep, and selling it as a gen for 21x the price, doesn't suggest desperation so much as premeditation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 there is no justification in trying to scam anybody like this...... When you have creditors phoning you several times a day, have to make £212 stretch for a fortnight over all your utilities and expenses, and don't have the money in your wallet to treat your wife to a coffee, you might understand what can drive someone to behave like that. Not saying it is 'justification', just saying I can understand what might drive someone to behave like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiman12 Posted September 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 guys...were making assuptions here that the E-Bay seller is the same member on RWG...maybe he turned around and sold it to someone else or bought it for someone else...all I can conclude is that Ubi's 7032 is being sold on E-Bay and THAT seller is a scammer. It might not be an RWG forum member...innocent until proven guilty...I guess... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonio_fr Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Did someone buy the watch at the end ? No return for a 40k$ watch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 The scammed buyer goes after the seller, perhaps the Feds get involved. (postal fraud, etc). The scammer then points the finger at me saying I sold the watch to him as a genuine. Now I have the fed's, or Paypal, or eBay, snooping around my business and questioning me, freezing my account, and knocking on my door. Not worth the hassle. Ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member X Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 I understand the worries re that situation, but if the feds see he's bought a watch for, say, $2k and then sold it on as genuine at x times the price, any fed with a brain is going to question the fact he paid so little for it in the first place but is saying it was sold to him as gen, surely?? Well you'd hope... lol Although whether they would then got nosey round your affairs would be difficult to judge until it happened, but I wouldn't like to bet against it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jsuperman17 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 sorry to hear all the trouble your great work has gotten ubi... but in the end.. our frankens have a world of possiblities... its not our fault if it gets passed for a gen... this is a passion for us... we cannot prevent the repercussions of situations like this on ebay... once again ubi... ur the man!!! i get dibs on your 16520... thanks to you im aiming for the gen unless you can convince me otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katerchen Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Hey gang, Sorry to chime in somewhat late; I haven't been on the forum in a few weeks. Chief and red alerted me to this thread; I can attest that this is indeed my old watch! WTF?! $40K US??? Followed this today... sorry Ubi! This (above) was exact what i didnt wanted to hear i had some small hope from the pictures that the watch listed is another franken-build and all is just coincidental - 40.000 USD?? W_TF!! Feel sorry for you and for the buyer - but if you say THIS is your watch, who else will know better than you? That kind of usury is extraordinary gross to me - also most notably because your franken-watch is resold AS GEN!! George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Gentlemen, The Admin group has done some in-depth sleuthing and we have confirmed the Ebay watch is indeed Ubi's creation. Also, sadly, the Ebay seller has been a member of RWG for some time. The member has been banned from RWG. We will withold his username for now, but eventually it will be made known. As always, caveat emptor. Buy the seller, not the watch. And thanks to ChiMan12 for being vigilant and pointing out the Ebay sale so we could address this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Also, sadly, the Ebay seller has been a member of RWG for some time. I had a feeling that was the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 That is very, very sad news. I am truly shocked that someone would try to do that here. I know we've had a number of scams lately around here, but to attempt to pass off an Ubi creation as a gen and add on that much of a profit to it is just plain gross to me. NIce to see the Admin team took action so quickly! Bravo fellas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueprince Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) What a bugger. Guys, the seller pulled the sale himself, can we all report it to Ebay as a rep and he'll hopefully suffer from them too if they get enough reports the same and they may stop him relisting it. As it is at the moment he could just relist it whenever, Ebay haven't had anything to do with pulling it holding his account. Edited September 9, 2010 by TheBluePrince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Good, I was afraid it sold and I was feeling sorry for the poor goober that bought it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 I think we should just add that the seller obviously pulled the watch when Chi posted about it. Now he is banned he may have a 'It doesn't matter anymore' attitude, therefore we should all stay alert to him relisting the watch and be ready to report it to eBay. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztech Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Just goes to show that a moment of weakness and a bad judgement call can have some deep consequences. I sorta feel bad for the member who tried this as he/she will have to live with it for the rest of their life. To Ubi hope this doesn't affect you making these creations as there are still honest people out there who enjoy your work. Don't let a few bad apples ruin it for the rest of us. To chiman, good catch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eunomians Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Wow Very disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gplracer Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 The seller also had this item: Omega Seamaster Does it look gen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 now that it's known who the culprit is, I can't believe someone who's been here a long time could be brainless enough to think they would not get caught by the members here who troll eBay daily for watches and parts. BOGGLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 The seller also had this item: Omega Seamaster Does it look gen? Interesting.....that was Haloarchive's Gen 20th Anniversary Speedmaster Moon Watch. Click me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiman12 Posted September 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 I just got home and the news is disappointing to hear that the seller was indeed a long standing member. But this is why the forums are here, to inform, watch out for each other and others, but most importantly have fun with this hobby. Great job on the admin team with this one! Ssssooo...anybody have any new and interesting projects! Let's see them!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTone Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 It was indeed Halo... Spoke with him personally... And he lied to me on numerous accounts... His account has been banned... TT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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