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Excellent comparison! And the 4th gens are incredibly close!

Very nice!

Just out of curiosity- Is the bezel/pearl that's on your orange 4th generation the one that originally came on it? The pearl and it's setting looks a bit different than the one on your black 4th gen...

Best rivetted braclet I have seen is this one

Ebay bracelet

I've got one of those en route. Purchased just to see the quality, etc. I'm not much of a rivetted bracelet fan (especially the genuine expanding bands), but I figure for the low price, it's worth checking out.

I was wondering the same, Ruo!!

What do I think? I think I might be making an order for one of these sooner than later, that's what I think!

I was thinking about this the other day- There are a good number of reps out there with some pretty convincing features and characteristics, such as realistic serial numbers that actually fall within a genuine serial or milesimation range. While this is a very nice detail for those of us interested in reps, I feel a bit badly for the owners of the actual genuines with that particular number that coincides with the replication. Especially when that particular number is mass produced on the reps; I can see how that would contribute to devaluation of that particular genuine in terms of legitimacy and integrity.

However, I do think the unique milesimation numbers on pieces like the 2893-2 PAM GMTs etc. was a very nice touch. I recall the surprise that I, along with many others had when this model first came out (roughly a yer ago) and caseback numbers were first compared. I have to imagine that such a feature was specifically for us, the enthusiasts on the boards who pay attention to such details. If such is the case, then I think that's proof that we are all actively helping to shape the direction of our hobby, and the manufacturers are taking note of what we want

But, I digress just a bit... Back on topic...

So, my question is this- Does the serial or milesimation stamping on your rep watch matter to you? And, how do you feel about having a realistic number? Important, or no? And, my final hypothetical question... If you[/] were the owner of the genuine that had a serial or prod number that was widely known to be used in reps; would that change the way you thought or felt about your watch?

Just some curiosity from me on the subject. Not trying to stir any pots of ruffle any feathers. Rather... I'm just a bit bored on a Weds morning, and wanted to get some general discussion going...

Best regards,

Randy

Andrew-

Is this a one of a kind, or will these changes be implemented across the line in production?

Very nice, Robi!! That one will be a keeper for sure!

Yes. As a matter of fact, the bezel pearl did look like what you have in the picture. So, then it's genuine?

Well, the basis of the watch being genuine based on the pearl and insert alone is not something I'd want to wager on. One could always have a genuine insert modified and installed on a rep. When dealing with a potential genuine, it's always best to pop the case back off and have a peek under the hood, so to speak Just to make sure.

But, if you have some pics that you can post, that may help too.

Veni-

For the best results, you'll actually want to have the case bead blasted. Brushed will still give a semi shiney appearance to the PVD.

Looking good Tommy!!

Hmmmm... You could get the dial and hands relumed with SuperLuminova... That would ensure that the hands and markers matched, and they would have the proper glow...

I'm getting sweaty hands thinking about a PO. I may have to give one a try...

Try http://www.perfect-clones.com/

Hmmmm... Did the pearl happen to look like this?

(^^ Genuine insert and pearl for a 16610)

The most puzzling thing is the beat rate that you mentioned... Your gen SMP Auto is a 28.800bph movement- The Rolex 3135 beats at the same frequency. So, if you noticed that the beat was actually faster... I'd say something is amiss. Exactly what... Who knows. But I definitely find it a bit odd...

So, anyways... Tommy... I'm dying to hear the scoop behind yours! It looks quite lovely!!

No?

:beta:

Too bad the rotation is in the wrong direction for an ETA!

Hmmmmmmmmm...

Vintage is where it's at....

Hmmmmm. I spy bold fonts and flat 3's....

there would be a couple of factory fitted flaws that seem to be standard on all reps.

For me, 'done correctly' would mean that the watch was replicated to MBW standards. i.e. some flaws would exist that are easily corrected by fitting genuine parts.

The yellowish color of the markers/indicies on the 24 you saw was a result of aging tritium. Your 92 should theoretically have SuperLuminova markers... So, it's not a flaw or giveaway, per se...

I stand corrected...

I'd gladly take one as well, as long as it was done correctly...

If Tudors are allowed... I'll take one of these.

Cheers, Bob! Have a good one, mate!