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Been meaning to reply to this thread. These despicable humans who kill innocent people have no God or soul. They use Islam as a cover to spread the hatred that lives in their heart. As someone who was brought up as a Muslim, it disturbs me to my inner core that these so called "jihadist" call themselves martyrs by killing innocent children. No one, I say no one deserves this. I know I am not the only one who is f*cking sick and tired of these mother f*ckers representing my religion. I think our community needs to step up and take a strong stand to separate ourselves from these a** holes. One of my friend suggested that instead of being reactive, we need to be more proactive and be vocal. Not only that, it is our responsibility to report every single f*cking person that might have extreme religious views. Religion is only part of our lives, it is NOT our life. I'm a firm believer in respecting other religions and in fact learning about them. Because if you spend a little effort in learning about other religions, you realize that they are not that different from whatever religion you might follow. In the end they all teach us how to be a good human beings and be just and fair. I swear I hear about any disaster in the world and the first thing that comes out of my mouth is, "please don't be a Muslim." It is a sad reality that now majority of the people think of Islam as a bad religion but I'm also amazed and happy to see people from other religion stepping up and defending Islam. To me that's more important what race or religion one might be.

LAHORE: The Muslim and Christian communities came together during Sunday mass in a show of solidarity in Lahore. X Hand in hand as many as 200-300 people formed a human chain outside the St Anthony’s Church adjacent to the District Police Lines at the Empress Road, in a show of solidarity with the victims of the Peshawar church attack two weeks back, which resulted in over a 100 deaths. The twin suicide attack on All Saints church occurred after Sunday mass ended and is believed to be the country’s deadliest attack on Christians.

The Beatles as ever hit the nail on the head: All You Need Is Love... Excellent discussion chaps. Regards to all.

I stand corrected. Awesome mod, and absurdly easy to get it right without too much hassle... Before: After:

This is a problem that the WEST can never solve. Not Western Europe, not the USA, not NATO, not the UN. This problem must be solved by the government leaders of the countries who harbor these extremists and allow them to operate and proliferate. They will out-wait and outlast any attempts from outside forces to defeat them, as we have seen over and over in the last few decades. What the West can do is isolate those countries and pen them in, until those leaders make it happen. Yes, that'll result in many "good" people suffering along the way, but following the present strategy is clearly not working. The level of hatred that these extremists harbor against anyone not directly in line with their beliefs is unimaginable to those of us outsiders. Unfortunately, this is not a war that can be won with any substantial level of compassion. We'll be fighting it this way for many, many generations if the strategy remains the same.

The team here at RWG has noticed over an extended time now that many new members are struggling to have either good dealings with sellers or a reasonable understanding of a fair process should something go wrong. We have therefore decided to lay down some guidelines based on the many years of buying and selling experience that can be found in the RWG Admin team. These guidelines are intended to be broad enough to cover both buying from a trusted dealer and member to member trades. Therefore this guide will be broken into sections looking at all aspects of buying. Buying It is extremely unlikely that a senior member or trusted dealer will set out to scam you. Yes it can happen, but not by anyone who wants to stay a part of our community. For this reason you should enter into transactions with these sellers with the mindset that you are going to get what you paid for. The number one cause of grief usually comes from the buyer entering into the deal with a suspicious mind. If you look hard enough, dig deep enough you will eventually find something to complain about in any trade. If, on the other hand, a genuine issue does arise and you are both on good terms then sorting that issue will not only be easier but a great deal quicker and more pleasant. It is the buyer’s responsibility to make sure that they know what they are buying. The seller will list the item with pic’s, price and full disclosure but the buyer should not assume that the item has some feature or function unless they ask the seller directly. Once the item has been paid for and shipping confirmed the seller’s responsibility ceases until the goods arrive. We often hear complaints how a seller has gone silent once the item has been bought. As long as the item is not long overdue then the seller does not have to keep a running commentary going with you. He sold you goods, not added you to his Christmas card list. Buyers need to check with the shipper &/or their local post office to see how long shipments take & what each of the entries in their tracking form means. Buyers need to realize that sellers have lives (outside of RWG), too & may not always be able to respond immediately to every email, PM or phone call made by an over-anxious newbie. Buyers should learn to be patient & limit communications to no more than 1/week. Buyers should never inundate a seller with repeated, threatening &/or lengthy diatribes. These rarely produce a positive result. Selling Prices are mandatory for all sales by members or dealers! RWG is a global community and as such hosts many different languages and customs. Just because the seller knows what he has stated he should not simply assume the buyer understands. For this reason it is crucial for the seller to include as much information as possible, but in clear concise terms, into their sales thread. Dealers should have pinned instructions on how to buy in their sales area, stating any special terms or conditions. Remember it does not matter how long you have done this for, the noob still will not know. A seller, both dealers and members, must always remember that things can go wrong and when they do they need to have a policy on how this can be fixed. Yes a private seller may add a clause stating all risks are the buyers but it must be written not simply expected. RWG hosts a member policed sales area. This means that members do have the right to point out issues that they may see with a sale. A seller has the right to ask any price he wants for his merchandise but he has to expect the members to question that price if they feel it is unrealistic. When problems arise [*]The very best offer you can get is to repair or replace. Once this offer is on the table the buyer should have no further qualms. [*]Shipping will always be a contentious issue as the buyer feels he has already paid the price on purchase, however issues are rarely the sellers fault, most in fact come from shipping. The buyer must always be aware of the sellers shipping policy or be willing to negotiate if an item needs to be returned. [*]Again senior members and trusted dealers will want to work with you when issues arise as it is their reputation on the line, however it is often the buyer attitude when dealing with issues that can turn the whole thing acrimonious. [*]Paypal disputes, often end poorly for both parties, so they should be used only as a last resort ie: when there is a serious problem with the sale and the seller has ceased communications or the seller is conducting a scam (a watch or other item that arrives damaged is NOT a scam!). [*]Buyers should only contact Admins in the following situations: 1. After receiving their item and there's a problem & the seller refuses to make it right, 2. If it has been more than 1 week since the last communication with the seller afterf the buyer reported a problem with the item, or 3. To report their being included in a global scam. Buyer beware One final note: when buying from a member who has very few posts or has just joined, it is advisable to be a little cautious before proceeding. Begin with a PM and ask some simple questions. Ask for a picture of the item with a tag showing the date and members name. Ask the seller if they are a member of any other forum so you can at least get to know them and check their reputation before proceeding with the transaction. If a seller gets defensive about the inquiries then there is every chance you are facing a scam and it is advisable to just walk away. The above can be just as true for a buyer so the same precautions should be taken. RWG provides you, the member, the safest possible platform for a happy buying/selling experience. However it is not always foolproof and members must always remember caveat emptor...’Let the buyer beware’. RWG Admin Team.

The most valid point is that Good Muslims are as powerless to stop Bad Muslims from committing murder as Good Christians are from stopping Bad Christians. Think Timothy McVeigh, Anders Breivik and in my own country Martin Bryant and these are just the tip of the iceberg. The fact is that radicals are just as hidden from those in their own religion as they are from others. This war is never going to finish by a few well placed bombs somewhere in Syria, maybe we should try to just the hell out of their country and see what happens? Ken

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the added depth to the dial and the watch itself is amazing with a complete crystal AR. looks great

@altesporsche: ProfSteve 2xAR . Get's rid of the cyclops. Me no likey.

Of course Paul, was a lovely educated conversation and you were surely a gent in disagreement. Have a wonderful day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Some info available in there.. Although some pictures of the work process (tools) would be great!

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I have likewise read the Quran and Hadith as well as having a degree in Christian theology. Just because something can be found in scripture does not mean that a majority of adherents choice to take it literally. Take that as the illogic of religion or of the human condition as you will, but it is never the less true. Perhaps it is a good sign that more Muslims are choosing to not take a literal view of every word of the Quran, but instead take a more enlightened view. "The Devil himself may site scripture to his own ends". William Shakespeare The clip is funny because it is factually correct yet we choose not to follow it. The Old Testament is scripture to Jews, Christians and Muslims

Seconded. You might feel that it is your trade mark and you have every right to, but if you are happy to share more details, I would love to know the ins and outs

Outstanding and intriguing work! Pls, Tell us more... I'd love to hear about the process of thinning the upper part of the mid case. I'm assuming a lathe is needed?

It seems to me the very nature of religion is to get ignorant masses "connected" to an unknowable Being. Those who are in the inner circle have already made progress down the paths of making this Being more knowable. Having this knowledge, they are confronted with a moral dilemma: to use it for good, or for evil. They realize that knowledge is power, so too often they convey this knowledge to the ignorant masses with a little twist added in. Invariably, this twist supplements the power of the one conveying it. Power corrupts. The ignorant masses confront no such moral dilemmas. They are told to obey or face dire consequences, spelled out by the ones doing the twisting to their own ends. This gives us ignorant masses inculcated with "truths" corrupted by evil leaders with agendas. These masses dare not disobey, for fear of the often-imaginary consequences. They will likewise not listen to other religious leaders than the ones doing the twisting, for fear of creating an offense. This gives corrupted men incredible power over masses of ignorant followers. Among these masses will be extremist devotees, ready to do anything to please their leaders. So it seems to me the answer is to isolate these leaders that corrupt the message to their own end, and eliminate them. Problem solved? No. We still have those poisoned by the erstwhile "leaders". They need to be talked back off the ledge, so to speak. But who does the talking? All too often it's the next generation of leaders with an agenda. It's corruption in the hearts of men that produces this carnage, and as long as that corruption exists, these attacks will too. Ironically, religion claims to possess the secret to eliminating this corruption. It's all lies. If you want to change a man's heart it's done through personal relationships.

Though I agree to a point it then just raises the point of why Oft Arab, African or certain parts of Asian men cannot suppress these urges of terror while the rest of us do. Not really a line of reasoning I think bears fruit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I put aside the things I know about doing research on crime and Islamic terrorism (15 years have passed and my life has taken me far away from these bad things). What I'm saying (from a country where there is political terrorism and organized crime) I just say that there are obscure things in all men. Can be money, a beautiful woman, can be the football team, can be politics, can be religion but it is just the excuse to kill. It is not the money, not the women's fault, it is not the fault of football, it is not the fault of politics or religion. Some people would kill so any reason could serve to justify bad action. But this is only my point of view and not the universal truth. Tapatalk

for my point of view the problem is the human factor, not the religion for it's self. Only a tragic mix in the life of good people and bad people in the same place, like a serial killer that walk same street close to other innocent people. Tapatalk

Indeed, not all religions are equal. However what is currently happening is due to extremists, not the general masses. I am not religious is any way, I actually have a deep seated distrust of all religions. I don't need someone telling how to live my life righteously - my parents instilled a sense of right and wrong in me. If I ever decided to act a certain way it would be because I'd thought it through and not because of some higher order calling me.

Sweet looking case. Please post pics when you get it assembled

Just found this, it's rather lovely

Align the cyclops and press the crystal and gasket on the case. Then take a crystal press and press the steel hoop on over the gasket and crystal. Or install the steel hoop and the bezel together with a crystal press over the gasket and crystal. A crystal press can hopefully be found for cheap (barato) in your country https://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?dir=asc&order=EAScore%2Cf%2CEAFeatured+Weight%2Cf%2CSale+Rank%2Cf&p=2&q=crystal+press

I hear you brother, but I wouldn't give these scum the legitimacy of religion. The prisons are full of people who heard God tell them to do it, nobody takes their statements seriously. They are murdering scum who are mentally abnormal and whom society needs protecting from, so are this lot.

The anti terrorist squad is in and treating it as a possible terrorist attack. I would imagine they have grounds for that. Whatever turns out to have happened, it's every parent's nightmare. Confirmed 19 dead

Old Vacheron today...

@antotony0203 Basically.. The Mikey hands are thinner in diameter compared to the gen hands. Gen hands have a pyramid effect once stacked up. Other than that the Mikey hands are great too but obviously, the gens are more refined and better finished in general. That is real itsy bitsy though. As for the subdial hands and chrono second hand, they are 98% identical and it's not really worth going gen on them if you ask me. Gen: Mikey:

Cheers guys. Here's my kitchen table where I cobble watches together lol In full swing by S STEEL, on Flickr

I love the dark lume on the hands in that 2nd pic!

Well you see that groove under the bezel, I believe that's a groove for a gasket, the size is 32mm x approx 0.7mm. I've ordered the gasket and with some silicone it should provide a tighter fit and improved waterproofing. The case back and screw down crown will be fine and this bezel gasket should make a difference. I'll eventually get mine pressure tested, but I don't have a wet pressure tank yet, it's on my shopping list. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No. I totally reshape the lugs. Top and sides.

Just finished my ceramic models and well happy with the results considering how long it took me [emoji12][emoji12] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well done!

Let's talk about what car(S) you'll be bringing

Guys as you read above you wll see Astonjenks as well as others I know of here only take PP gift, you see he got burnt by a buyer useing PP. Does that contradict my advise no, look at it this way Aston may limit his scope of buyers but prefers this method as he got taken for some serious cash in the past. For myself I send Aston gift payments without a second thought others might not, it's about freedom to make your own choices here.

Amen to that alot of messy sales lately for a long time our sales section just Worked now our section resemble The other forums

I always pay the PayPal fee if it's not included. On rare occasions, such as dealing with AJ as I have several times, I'm happy to use a gift payment. As ALWAYS, buy the seller first. I had a narrow escape when I first joined by buying a Seamaster Chrono, the seller wanted a gift payment I offered to pay the fees and how could he say no. He didn't sent the watch and disappeared, but not before fleecing several members with his demands for a gift payment. I was lucky and got my money back.