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On average this topic crops up about every month, it's always interesting to read how one defines and justifies partaking in an illegal hobby. Everyone has their different reasons for doing so, I think the danger is when people buy them to pass them off as gens (not at a point of resale, but in everyday life), I came across someone that did this and it made me question their integrity and what else they might tell little white lies about.

Buy a rep, wear it as a rep. Have fun with it

Thanks for pointing me in this direction Pix, missed this one somehow

If you like the standard version, check out the IWC Portofino in black, that looks very similar!

Nice watch!!

I like many other here have always wanted a UN rep. But with the complicated movements UN generally use, a good rep has never really materialised. This has just been released, and shares very much similar traits as used by UN in their designs....

http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=74341&hl=

These are very good

Remember, there are more aircraft in the sea than there are submarines in the sky!

Nice pics! I do like this one, how long have you owned it for.....? I do like the current Tag Heuer line up, they have released some nice designs!

UN make some beautiful watches, and that is one of them! Congrats on you rpurchase Chad!

Quartz piece of junk that one.

Nice collection, and the pics are very good also!

A Lello datewheel and that would be very good indeed! However I much prefer the non-chrono version, I think the chrono's over complicate it on this one.

Nice post! Unbelievable that something so collectible would be sold through a channel such as Ebay! Congratulations on the winning bid!

Looks very accurate this one! Not my cup of tea, but a great replica none the less!

Totally agree TT. It's like saying a genuine Rolex is a scam because they are priced very highly, where in fact it is the industry standard. Just because a product throughout the whole market is overpriced doesn't make it a scam, it's called marketing, if you don't like the price don't buy it. Simple

Congratulations on the purchase, the PO is one of the nicest watches out there! Wear it well.

Incredible pictures! The balances are very good!

The only thing they could possibly imporve would be a factory fitted Lello DW.

The new A7750 movements are very good movements, have them serviced as you would a gen, and it will last you like a gen.

Not a very good picture, but in the movie 'Fracture' Ryan Gosling wears an IWC 3714, with the gold numerals.

I was wondering if you cold send me the eaddy of your local dealer? Thank you.

It's a gen, you can get one from an AD, but not a rep dealer

Most of the 'collectors' also carry rep Breitling straps that are very good for the price!

CBR I am glad it turned out ok for you in the end. I can tell by your posts that you are a relaxed person, and with training behind you, all the better.

Speaking generally here, what would make me wary of drawing a firearm, or knife in this situation is the unpredicatbility that it can cause in the other person. As a martial artist of many years, I have learnt that it can often be the ones that don't train who can sometimes be the hardest to predict, as they often move in very random and unpredicatble ways (part of the reason why Bruce developed JKD - free plug haha) So after reading my waffle for the last paragraph, what I mean is that as a relaxed and trained person, who had full composure, and control of the situation, it could have gone one of two ways;

They could have done as they did and surrendered

They could have pulled a gun and shot at you, possibly harming you.

The second scenario would have been beyond the control of anyone, and in fact although you were trained and compsosed, in drawing the gun, you have created a less than favourable situation.

This post is by no means a statement against the actions that you did CBR, and in fact I admire your actions, as it is true that training can help combat theft - with power comes responsibility. My post does however raise the concerns that I have when faced with someone in the street who is adversely affecting my interests. For instance, I would have no problem in defending myself against multiple attackers, yet, if I do, I am playing a game of probabilities that one of them doesn't have a firearm or a knife, because that kind of thing can rapidly change the odds to go against you.

Nice collection of Pams! I particularly like the 104!

I agree with your thoughts entirely Phoband, and it is definitely nice to see less of a link between the dealers, although to what extent it is, I don't know. I would suspect that there aren't many new factories setting up to make these replica's and I also imagine there haven't been many disagreements, as there can't be that many factories producing these watches - so conflict would see a big loss in income for the 'collectors' here. There could be some kind of agreement behind the scenes, that some collectors will retail certain watches publicly, whilst the others they will list quietly . As an example dealer A and dealer B both have watches x and y. Dealer A markets watch X publicly, and merely lists watch Y, Dealer B quietly lists watch X, and publicly releases watch Y - this is pure speculation on my part though, more of a theory than a view I hold.

I think the golden age was reached roughly august last year. The new reps that are being produced are still of amazing aesthetical quality, but what has dulled down my enthusiasm for purchasing the newer ones is mainly down to not knowing what movement I will get. I don't want this thread to go off on a tangent and I don't want to spark another movement discussion, as this is not what this thread is about, but for me, that is why I feel the golden age was last year.

Thanks for the link, they are some nice pictures. I can't decide whether I prefer this model or the 3714.