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tony.anne... koizumi13...

Bernard,

Glad to see you here, mate!

One is folded and the other is a heavy link. Serial number range/year of production will determine which one is correct for your watch (though if the watch was serviced and issued a replacement bracelet from an RSC, the replacement would be a heavy link regardless).

One of these things is not like the other (but two of them will accept a genuine 1570/5 datewheel and beat at 21600bph).

6263 can have:

7835 with 71 or 571 end links

78350 with 571 end links

Excellent choices for your first order; both in watches and dealer!

Be safe, and thank you very much for all you guys do!! I don't think it can be said enough.

Kindest regards,

Randy

Indeed. Quite nice!

Beautiful! I love those chocolate subdial rings!

Nevermind the fact that there are:

1) Lugholes when there shouldn't be.

2) Solid midlink bracelet.

3) Non-OE crown

4) [censored] bezel (too small and insert is no good)

5) incorrect clasp

6) No engraving on inside of caseback

Probably much more that cannot be seen in his poor photos.

LMAO... Terrible, just terrible.

116520 holo sticker on the caseback. That is just too much

Kinda reminds me of Gregko's Ugly Duckling project...

Skeletonizing.

Not hard at all to build a frankenstein of this model. Here is my 16520- All genuine parts, except the dial which I consider to be non original as it has been repainted on the OEM base. All I need to do is add the Zenith movement, and it's done.

All it takes is money.

Ahhhh... The plot thickens!

Be very wary, folks! There's a scammer around every corner!

Tough to say. The vintage game is a dangerous place to be setting foot in these days. For the amount of money at stake, it really pays to either purchase the item in person so that the merchandise can be inspected first hand, or pay a premium to go through a trusted and knowledgable dealer who specializes in vintage Rolex. At any rate, it's always difficult to determine if either party in an ebay auction truly knows what they are getting into. Chances are that the seller probably knows that the watch is not genuine, otherwise, he would have sold with a high reserve to guarantee payout of what the watch is worth (starting the item high), or he would have sold it using a different venue, possibly consignment through a knowledgable and trusted dealer to get closer to what the watch is truly valued at. As for the buyer- There are many people out there just itching to get in on the Rolex vintage phenominon. Some uneducated buyers out there with lots to spare may see this as an excellent opportunity to 'buy low' to have something nice to hold onto (and maybe sell high later). Or... It could be shill bidding to push the price up to make the auction seem a little more legit. Or... Who knows? The possibilities are endless on either side of the fence.

You can also use a razor blade to seperate the link

BTW- There is only one vintage 7mm crown that I would consider spending the money on, and that's the non-Triplock version that came on the original early models prior to release of the Triplock system. If we're talking vintage Triplock vs. modern, there just simply isn't enough difference to me to justify any extra cost, as they are virtually the same in terms of size, function, etc. Only difference is the shape of the coronet of the stamping. Going back to the non-Triplock crown, that particular crown would be incorrect on a 6263, as they are all 'Oyster' signed with screw down pushers, etc. A 6239/40/41/62 with the pump pushers would be a different story.

....is there any chance you can get stopped at an airport on the way in or out for having what looks like a rep on? Just wondered thats all....especially the states?

I don't think TSA cares what you have on your wrist.

You could swap the SELs from the solid bracelet that came on Luckyyy's watch with the SELs on the hollow link bracelet. This would ensure the holes for the springbar line up with the lug holes. Not a difficult job to do- The link closest to the SEL has to be taken apart to get the SEL off, but that's about it

Indeed, Oli. $16k to $20k is far too little for a genuine... But far too much for a fake

DW does offer a 14k YG 6263 case kit. But I can assure that the watch in the eBay auction is a fake. The movement says it all at first glance; one look at the balance is all it takes. V72's re-worked by Rolex should not have a regulator, but rather microstella screws on the balance wheel. The case... As Ludo mentioned... spring bar holes on only one side of the case?!? Those pushers are weaksauce, and that caseback looks too tall; comparing the auction pics with an EE 6263 I have on hand, the caseback is the same. Some other details just don't look right either, and I'm sure if we had a better, closer pic of the dial, we'd find problems there too. This particular watch looks like it probably wasn't cheap to make, so with all that money invested, why not go the extra distance and at least get the case right? At least the movement cannot be seen under everyday conditions, though if trying to sell the watch, there is no doubt that any educated and smart buyer will want to see what's under the hood.

Oh, and one final observation from me- The saying 'if it's too good to be true, it probably is...' Well, folks. We all know that stainless steel Daytonas sell for ridiculous prices, but what about the 18k Newmans?!?! Those puppies are up in the $90k to $100k+ ranges depending on condition and whether or not complete with boxes, papers, etc. As of this writing, the watch has 10 hours left, 30 bids, and $16k with no reserve. A bit underpriced, no? Don't you think that the seller of a true, GENUINE watch of this value would want what the watch is really worth? I know I wouldn't want to short change myself nearly $80k US. But, that's just me

Euno, you know that I know you appreciate vintage crownies of all types! Thanks for the kind words!!

Ubi, your Tudor makes me wanna collapse hard onto my hardwood living room floor.

Errrr... I hope this is a good thing?

@Ubi: Randy, be carefull with your tube instalation b/c last night I broke a gen rolex tube inside the tube hole trying to install it on my 6263; I think there are diferents treaths in the DW cases

Yikes! Thanks for the heads up on this one Toni! Definitely good to know! I was under the impression that the gen tubes were a direct replacement, but maybe that's only on the V72 case kit?

is the DW case thicker than a gen?

Nope.

Genuine Tropic 21: Check!

Genuine springbars: Check!

Not much more to correct after that. Just the crown and tube. Everything else is pretty close to start with.

An excellent new addition to the collection! Enjoy that beauty!