hiker01

Thanks all for the input! Got the good word today that it finally showed up! Whew! We got one happy camper!

I've sold about 14 watches so far and shipped all over the world and about 5 to Canada and the last one haven't shown up yet at one of our member's address!

It was payed via PP and I shipped it using PP via USPS Priority Mail on Dec. 22 '08 and.....nothing! Tracking said it was picked up for delivery, but nothing else!

I called them today and all I got from there CS is.... "no further information!" Nobody recieved it or if Canadian Customs is holding it! The poor member have been

waiting for it since, and I feel so bad for him because this is his first REP........I think!

Canadian Brothers, any Idea????

BTW: It was shipped to Moncton New Brunswick!

Thanks! Hike

Thanks The Zigmeister! Keep up the good work and more power to you!

Hike

I saw in one of those US Gossip Magazine last week while in my Chiro's Clinic having my left ankle fixed the son (adopted) of Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise

waring a PAM and also Mathew McConaughey!

Same here? I have two of them! Did you buy it from our dealers here? BTW: The Zigmeister is in Canada, Don't call him an American, he might get offended ! !

What do you make of this? Here is the full link http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?p=1547711

Look at this picture of a Seagull ETA CLone, Hangzhou clone and a real ETA

Please pay special attention to the auto assembly gears. Apparently there were an easy tell between Clone and real ETA, now i think not......

WOW AJ! Thanks, Dude! You always learn something!

Hike

Here's the Rose Gold Version:

This is a very classy watch! I were mine with formal clothes!

Get the rubber, it's very comfortable! Very close to the GEN!

113 and MBW AP?

@Polynomial, Congratulations!!!! Please PM me your address and I'll mail you the PAM silicone bracelet tomorrow! The rest, thanks a lot guys for playing!

The reason why I had them tested: Besides having plenty of time last New Year's Eve, I wanted to pick two REPS to take with me next week diving in Thailand,

Palau and the Philippines! Nothing major, maybe around 80-100ft at the most! Just mostly coral diving and lots of snorkling!

The Test:

The Portescap system: the watch is placed on a platform inside a vacuum chamber. The chamber is then evacuated of all air and a pointer is lowered until it touches the glass of the watch; the air in the watch is now at a higher pressure than that in the chamber (air pressue vs vacuum) and it will once again try to escape if it does so the case will suddenly contract as the pressure equalise and this will be registered on a micrometer guage connected to the pointer touching the glass.

The Device/Machine Tester:

Testing pressure range from -0.7 up to 10 bar

Automatic test start when closing the chamber

Auto-positioning of the watch during the test

Automatic pressure chamber leak test

Safe locking system during vacuum test

Automatic air evacuation upon power loss

Extremely simple operation and programming

10 programmable single and double tests (factory pre-set)

Operates with a compressor or air installation

Supply voltage: 90 - 270 volt AC 50/60 Hz

Max. watch dimension: Height 40mm, Diameter 60 mm

Multi-lingual printer interface

Cost of test: US$15/watch... the WS was nice enough to fix the damaged at no cost!!!

Results:

All the four watches (AP ROO SAFARI, PAM243/SeaDweller/Chopard MM GTXL LE) passed the 10Bar/ATM maximum that the tester would do! This was very

impressive for the Safari and the Chopard MM considering that they are Chronos!

Failed watches:

MBW AP Roo Black Themes: @7BARS/ATM, the tester shut off and started decompressing. When the WS opened the device, we immediately saw the problem,

the CRYSTAL POPPED out and was setting halfway across the right side of the bezel! This was very disappointing! Of all the six watches, I had high hopes for

this model. It was claimed that this watch was used by the first owner diving in Thailand......., but you never know! A lot of factors could have affected this

watch! One of them is shipping across the world!

The WS pressed back the crystal, but won't perform the test again! He was worried that the damage could get worst..........

PAM113: @2BARS/ATM, the tester shut off and started decompressing. When the WS opened the device, we didn't see anything visibly wrong with the watch!

He and I checked the crown, but couldn't find anything wrong with it! It was tightly pressed by the CG Lever when it was engaged! WS opened the caseback and checked the O-ring, but

that, too was perfect! So I told him not to worry about it and I'll check it when I get home........which I did! Now at home, I only have the Offrei Rubber ball (yellow) to open my watches,

which I use to open the 113 and soon realized that the glass part in the center of the caseback was rotating when I turn the ball! That, for me explains the leakage problem!

Solutions????? I need your opinion/tips here, Guys! What do you think should be done to:

- the popped crystal of the MBW ROO???

- the loose caseback crystal of the 113?

BTW: I pressed the caseback crystal (crude way by putting the watch face down on the carpet flloor and using a twist cap from a liter bottle placed

on top of the caseback crystal and then a small cutting board and then pound it with a small mallet!!!!) When that was done, I turn on the kitchen faucet to full force and just about

right warm temperature and put the watch underneath, casdeback facing the water for about 5 mins or until the sink was full! After that, I left the watch submerged in the sink for another

20 mins.........removed it and wipe it dry......didn't see any condensation, so I put it outside on the porch (10F temp) for about 10 mins and still didn't see any condensation! The watch is still

running perfectly fine! Although I don't think I'll take it diving!

Which one am I taking????

Not completely decided yet, but inclining towards the Safari and the PAM243 as a backup! I'll let you guys know before I leave!

Again, thanks to everyone who participated! HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL!!!

Cheers! HIKE

Ok, Safari and the MM

oppppps...........uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmn.................nah! As I said, Nik, you were close! Try again!

other than what I posted above, there are only 3 other options... the suspence is killing me. oh and I want pictures of the failures

You know, in my rush to get to the WS place, I forgot the camera........damn! Believe me, I was [censored] off especially with the result of the failures!

Ah, what can I say............at least we're having fun!

SD and Safari

Sorry My friend! Wrong!

AP ROO black (you stinker, you never told me you had that hidden the Hike Vaults!!) annnnnnnnd the MM

Wassssup Nik! Hehehehe......jst a few! You're close, but nope!

Alright guys.....I'll give it another hour then I will divulge.....tada! the models that failed!

Good luck!

Lets keep this going!

SD and AP black!

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnn....................Nope! Time's almost up!

243 and chopard?

Way off! Sorry! Try again! If no one guesses right by Fri. night, I'll post the results then!

the 243 and the safari

happy new year

The SD and the 243 ?

@FF, I thought the same too. but thought I should say the safari.... how about it hike?

MBW APROO BLACK AND JOSH'S PAM 243

Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn...nah! Try again 'ya all! Wow, this is getting interesting!.........and fun!

Edited just to add: Some of you are getting one of each right! You just need to pair them together! Once we got a winner, then I hope we could discuss how we could

fix the problems or weakness that came up!

Happy New Year Hike !!

My guess - the SD and the Pam 113

Was it the Rolex and the Chopard?

NYET!!!! to both!

I have found only one MWB for AP ROO without sec@12.

That

Here's to a healthy New Year!...........but before that..................................

I'm gonna drink, smoke and try all the goodies that Thailand, Palau, and the Philippines have to offer in two weeks!

Six weeks of partying......diving......tanning...........yeah!

i HOPE i have enough left to slug thru the rest of 2009!

Both Offshores? I would naturally guess chronos since they have more leak points and although I can't remember I assume the AP's do not have a screw down crown - at least my gen RO doesn't. The Chopard is too obvious since you didn't touch that one.

APROOs have screw down crowns! Try again, Dude!

My guess would also be the two APs

Sorry my friend! Hope you had a great NY eve celebration! Try gain!

Just for the fun of it - Both PAMs!

Hey cool! How was your celebration? Try again, Dude!

Chopard and the 113 is my guess!

Nope! Try again!

my guess is the safari and the chopard

happy new year!

Not! Try again!

Common guy's, keep it comin! SOme of the results surprised me, too! One of the watches that failed had a dramatic result! It surprised me and the WS! We both agreed on what we thought is

the weak point on the other one!

HikeUSA... you've always been a great guy (Not just because you have "USA" in your name, that too) and I think this post proves why!!

Hmmm... I guess really it's a given the Chopard failed the test...

for my second guess I'm going to say the Josh AP ROO.... but honestly it's a shot in the dark

corgi........I love you. man! That's sweet! Member #3999 & mwah #4000....I love it! Try again!

My guess is the both PAMs failed.

You, too Dude! Try again!

Plenty of time to burn before the New Year comes, I went running, lifted weights, return and exchange some gifts and yet I still have plenty of time to burn, so what a better way I thought to spend the last few hours of free time I have in the old year but to visit my GEN watchsmith to perform a WATER RESISTANCE TEST ON THESE SIX COLLECTION:

I decided to go all out and asked the WS to do a 10Bar - 10ATM - 100Meters - 330ft test since most watches claim this resistance. Listed are the watches and what I performed on them before the test:

TOP ROW:

- PAM113: installed new rubber o-rings on caseback cover and crown

- MBW AP ROO Black Themes sec@9: greased rubber gasket

- Joshua's AP ROO Safari with black rubber strap: greased rubber gasket

BOTTOM ROW:

- Joshua's SD with Asian ETA: installed new rubber o-rings on caseback cover, tube and crown

- Chopard MM GTXL LE: none done, as is from subzero1

- Joshua's PAM 243: installed new rubber o-rings on caseback cover and crown

4 PASSED

2 FAILED

So for the New Year, guess which two failed........the person who picks the correct two, I will send a free PAM Blue Rubber Bracelet like the one that wheaton sells! Not that much, but it should be good enough to play the guessing game for the New Year!

Thanks for playing!

Unique........for sure! A collector's item!

Silex is superb to work with. He is busy but always e mailed replies. It was about a 6 week wait, but a great experience and I will order from him again w/out hesitation. My research showed him to be best cost value as well. I'll get pictures up, but in short - it is everything I'd hoped for....so far.

CHeersbigears,

mglawrence2001

Do you mean six days??? Six weeks is too long from China to LA! This is a commonly stocked model with most of our dealer!

Hike... looks great!

Thanks, Dude~! You started it and it ended my way! Have a Merry White Christmas! I'm still digging out!

This beast have been passed around as it started with a dead movement and nobody seems to want it! Got it from one of our members who owned it last and I sent it to Mr. Vac for service and now it's back to it's proper form:

In Rubber:

The Swiss 6497 redux:

Different lighting:

Some Lume shots:

My Sincere Thanks to Vaccum for a very quick turn-around time and an excellent job! Thanks J!

Hike!