Ronin

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The only GEN watch is one that is 100% made by the manufacturer. Anything else with gen parts, even if ALL parts are GEN is a custom made after market watch. It can never be GEN.

Simple, concise, clear... I would have to agree.

@chefcook Clever!

Good info. Thanks! Great knowledge base post.

That Funky Monkey

Saturday the 3rd. What are you wearing?

Nice mIIk. And as a Seiko fan--

That would look hot with a Mil Spec Bezel Insert!

Tijuana

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Dead Milkmen

I think the car analogy is most fitting, and even supports Rolex's position.

I used to race cars in the SCCA and saw similar manufactures claims, as related to warranty / service. So you can go out and and buy a Porsche. You can chip it, replace the exhaust, change suspension components. Porsche will void your warranty on the spot. (In fact VW did this a few years back at an import car show. A rep was walking around taking VIN numbers to VOID their warranty).

So, to the point. Do you still own a Porsche. Yes.

To your specific example. ETA in a Gen Datejust because you can't/won't replace the defective 1570. Is it still a Rolex? I won't argue with you. Rolex will.

Lets get philosophical now. If you have an organ transplant-- liver (like Steve Jobs did recently). Because Steve Jobs has an aftermarket liver-- Is he no longer Steve Jobs? Will God (if you believe) void his warranty.

If you really want to get into the philosophy side of when something is gen or ceases to be itself check out: The Ship of Theseus, also known as Theseus's paradox, is a paradox that raises the question of whether an object which has had all its component parts replaced remains fundamentally the same object. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

Enjoy,

Maderia

I get between 36 and 40 hours on a wind-to-stop.

The A-Team

Dutch

Oregon

Cause

Check these guys out as long as you do not mind not having a aftermarket strap. I have bought their calfskin straps and was really happy. Nicely made and very well padded.

Straps

Also, there is a seller on Ebay named Official Time out of HK. I have bought 2 shark skin straps from them and they are real nice as well! Again thick padded strap and will fit the Breilting deployment.

Both of these have alligator/Croc pattern straps made from calfskin and gen alligator/croc. If you are looking for gen. Alligator/Croc expect to pay some $$$.

Whats awesome is the Navi shown in their example is a Rep.

Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band

Moon (both Keith and the Wasteland that is our Moon)

So don't wear you rep to an AD or Doctor. Could you imagine if it was a Rep confused as a gen!

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2009/09/lawsuit_alleges_er_doctor_let.php

Lawsuit Alleges ER Doctor Let Man Die In Order to Steal His Rolex

By Joe Eskenazi in Law & Order, WTF?

Mon., Sep. 28 2009 @ 12:01AM

To die for?

​ A jaw-dropping lawsuit filed last week in San Francisco Superior Court alleges an emergency room doctor abandoned his attempts to resuscitate a patient from cardiac arrest to instead pocket the dead man's valuable Rolex wristwatch.

The suit, filed by the adult children of Jerry Keith Kubena, Sr., alleges that Dr. Cleveland James Enmon on June 1 "formed the intent" to swipe the Rolex from Kubena's wrist while treating the man at St. Joseph's Medical Center in Stockton (as this is a subsidiary of San Francisco-based Catholic Healthcare West, the lawsuit was filed here).

After Kubena went into cardiac arrest, "Defendant Enmon assumed responsibility for resuscitating descendant [Kubena]," reads the suit. "Once defendant Enmon formed the intent to steal decedent's watch, he abandoned his efforts to resuscitate decedent, leaving decedent to die so that he would not be around to reclaim his watch."

According to the suit, Enmon's alleged theft was as clumsily executed as it was heartless:

The nursing staff assisting Enmon soon noticed that Kubena's flashy timepiece was missing; "Where is the wristwatch?" the suit quotes one as uttering. Two more nurses allegedly noticed a wristwatch-shaped bulge in the doctor's pocket. Security was called to investigate the disappearance. Defying security's orders, the lawsuit notes Enmon walked out of the operating room and into the parking lot -- a move caught on hospital security cameras.

A nurse claims she saw Enmon toss a small object into the grass; she subsequently led security personnel to that exact area and recovered the watch.

Last month, the suit continues, a San Joaquin County grand jury indicted the doctor for grand theft and a $25,000 bench warrant has been issued for his arrest. Yet Kubena's children claim the hospital failed to call the police -- something they were forced to do on their own. This accusation of negligence is one of six charges brought up in the suit: wrongful death; negligent hiring; negligent supervision; civil conspiracy; intentional infliction of emotional distress; and negligent infliction of emotional distress

In short, the doctor is being sued for obvious reasons and the entities that employed him are being blamed for wrongdoing in hiring such a man and their conduct following the alleged robbery. Disturbingly, Kubena's children claim that, due to the investigation surrounding the missing watch, they were unable to grieve at his bedside following his death. The plaintiffs allege they were kept in the dark about their father's death for more than an hour, during which time the defendants supposedly cooked up a plan to cover up Enmon's alleged theft. In fact, it was Enmon himself who was sent to tell the family of Kubena's death. The suit claims that 11 days passed before a confidential source told the family of Enmon's alleged wrongdoing.

The suit, incidentally, does not disclose the value of Kubena's "Presidential Rolex" -- but it's safe to say it was worth several thousand and perhaps several dozen thousand dollars.

Sadly, if Kubena were wearing a Timex, his heart might still be ticking today.

Asteroid