By-Tor

funny how crown does not line up:

The crown "lining up" when screwed in is one of the stupid myths, just like the 2.5x magnification on all Rolexes. My old man has 5 gen Rolexes and the crown doesn't "line up" in ANY of them. It's all utter bs. Sometimes the crown DOES line up though... but it's complete luck of a draw.

I don't know where these "facts" always come from. Just like Rolexes being heavy watches, etc.

UPO, along with the SMP Chrono, must be the best Omega rep ever.

Enjoy!

- Bracelet 950

Another Tudor, nice!

Hey Ubi, what happened to your 1675 project?

Thanks Toad. Just a general summary, 10-15 lines max. That would be great, thanks mate.

@Stephane: Thanks mate... but I don't need it anymore. Appreciated though.

Thanks Freddy!

The old GMT (the one in your picture) uses "wrong hand stack" (hour hand above the 24h hand), and it doesn't even have independently adjustable GMT/hour hands. The rotating bezel is used to track different timezones.

Technically that would be very easy to replicate, but for some strange reason there are no good reps of the vintage Master.

The 16710 (that I have) has different hand stack and independently adjustable hour hand. Mine even operates exactly like the genuine, except the date change is tied to the 24h hand, which is inaccurate. The 16710 and 1675 are completely different watches technically.

16710 is the only GMT rep that can be modified very close to the original (if you find the movement somewhere). I think it's very nice with the wrong hand stack too... but for some people that's a "major issue". I'd love to see a good rep of the vintage too... but I doubt we'll ever see one.

This is very impressive review & writeup. The video is amazing.

PS: I hope you don't mind... I moved this to "Other watch reviews" and pinned it. The first-ever rep Tourbillon article deserves that.

Okay, NOW the weekend is really here. Let's see 'em!

I'm enjoying my "rep grail", the correct hand stack GMT, with upgraded smaller crown... that really "finishes" this watch nicely. Sorry to brag guys, but after all the mods performed this is SOOOO nice and SOOOO damn accurate, hard to take off.

Once again thanks to Eurotimez for finding this gem for me!!!

Let's see what you got!

I guess this one is bit of a "love or hate" watch. I've never been a fan of Ti, either... but I know this is highly sought after rep among the fans. Very interesting to read about it.

Another remarkable review! Linkeed to the Breitling Guide, of course.

Great job, these make such wonderful read.

Never been a DJ expert, but somehow it looked just a little bit too "spot on".

Enjoy that beauty!

Hi Wim, nice to get you onboard.

If you want to start with a cheaper replica, I recommend you to read Chrgod's excellent guide of the "Top ten bargain buys". It's an excellent guide and it covers the best of the best cheaper reps.

Read it here.

Happy hunting!

If you have been wondering since the beginning, WHY? the simple (and honest answer) is, to get chicks of course.

I like accessories too. I have collected lots of boxes and booklets. They're nice, and they somehow "complete" the watch. And they're often nice additions to my photo setups.

We have rather different tastes, but as a anti-PAM fan I have to say this Regatta is one of the few PAM models I actually like.

Many say that the Ferrari is 99% copy of the genuine.

Can't fault those choices, really.

Enjoy!

I doubt that they will ever replicate the 16610 properly, with the new engraved rehaut version and Basel around the corner, I'm afraid that they will concentrate on newer model and it will end as happened with the 16710, a nice rep, but far from being "perfect"

You probably mean 16600, the SSD?

16710 "Noob" is visually among the best Rolex reps ever, imho... if not the best (after mods of course).

But yeah, I agree 100%. The factories are now concentrating on the new (mostly ugly) Rolex models... and f*ck them up. Talked to Angus a bit and he says the old models aren't probably getting much attention anymore.

This Chopard is a real beauty, and I'm not surprised so many members have picked this up.

Enjoy!

I love it.

It's amazing how much nicer the "polished bezel" DJ is. I've never liked the one with the "spiky" bezel. The Oyster bracelet with polished links make it perfect. Never liked the Jubilee, either.

If I had to buy a DJ, I'd grab this exact same model. It's beautiful! And besides, everything on the watch looks spot on = quality piece.

I think 2006 and 2007 we saw lots of great replications of the "mainstream reps"... such as Omega SMP Chrono, TAG Link Chrono , Carrera, Aquaracer, SFSO, Bentley, new Navitimer, UPO, BCE, Cousteau, etc. etc.

It seems to me that the visual quality is still as good, but the factories have been concentrating more on the "obscure" brands: Ebel, Chopard, B&R, Cartier, etc. The year 2007 was a real "IWC year". Almost all main models came out in very short time.

Most popular Omegas and Breitlings have been replicated very well already, so I doubt we can except a lot from that direction. Perhaps it's going to be silent for a while now? I mean, what there is to except... something that has potential to sell a lot (like UPO or SSD)? If they made one more run of the 42mm PO with 2x AR coating it would be a smash hit.

But then again... maybe this all silence means that the PERFECT SUB IS COMING NEXT!!!

Nice review. I don't smoke, but I still wouldn't mind having one of those lighters... it would probably look great on the photo setups.

Nice read Laz!

They still haven't copied the 16610 properly, even VISUALLY... so what would the gen movement copy change?

Yeah... we could have lots of new wokky Submariner reps that have the crown positioned correctly.

I say let them first replicate the watch properly and then start thinking about the movement.

The Noob GMT 16710, 16613 and 16610 dials are perfect. Well as perfect as you can except from a rep.

The TW best dial isn't even close. Look at the "M and m" alignment for example. The print quality is lousy as well.

I think Noob has better front rehaut thickness than both MBW and TW models. They aren't bad but not as good as the Noob. For me the shorter rehaut depth is much smaller flaw than the lack of "front ring". Well it IS present on the TW model but it doesn't look quite right.

WM9 is the best in this regard. It has better depth and excellent thickness.

The way I see the TW model: Excellent overall feel. Everything is pretty close, but nothing is really spectacular (accuracy wise). It's simply not possible to build a superb 16610 right now, unless you use the WM9 as a base and change almost everything. Members have built excellent frankens around the TW though... it's a good base if the rehaut depth is more important to you, than the "ring thickness". But again you have to change almost everything.

Noob is the best compromise, imho. Change the oversized crown and pearl, polish and oil the bracelet (and possibly realign the crystal/cyclops) and it's very reasonable rep (imho).

PS: I'm quite surprised we haven't seen any new 16610 models from our dealers. When did the Noobmariner surface? 2 years ago?

Looks like TW Best to me. You could compare your watch to this and tell if it's anything alike.

That's a beauty.

If you ever want to get rid of it, ask me first.

(Now that my 16710 project/search is finished I obviously need a vintage).