TeeJay
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I dont see the point of buying a gen anymore after visiting the AD and learning the new list prices for the 16610.. ARE THEY OUT OF THEIR F'ING MINDS! I still cant get over it, ALMOST $7K for a watch with $500 worth of materials in it. then you go outside and look at your super rep as you put it back on your wrist and you cant help but laugh all the way home. there is NO DIFFERENCE ANYMORE! the watch feels the same, i've studied it carefully. by raising the prices of their watches every year Rolex stands to alienate their customer base and make their watches out of reach of the casual collector. Rolex will push their prices until they start to loose money. remember, you're NOT buying a $7,000 watch, you're buying a membership to an exclusive club, and I think the WM9 v3 MORE than gets you there, part for part the only thing the Rolex does better is the finishing, but thats not worth $6500 more and you can polish your own bracelet. the new ceramic black SS sub will cost about $9,000 in Sept my AD says as they mark up the 16610 because it's "discontinued"(a$$holes) and collectible now (what ever that means). when you visit the AD the price of BKs V3 isnt too shabby at all, in fact it's a steal! only thing it needs is a gen insert
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My concern is that if you get a gen, you will wind up with buyer's remorse when comparing it to your BK Sub. I totally get your point that you're buying it as a daily watch, not an investment, but, should you need to sell it in the future, hey, nothing wrong with getting a reasonble price for it, that's just good sense
As KBH mentioned, way more important things to be buying/saving for than an overpriced sports watch, when you already own the next best thing already. While I totally get that you're noticing the flaws in the rep, I think you'll find the gen boring in its perfection, and gradually get that sickening feeling of being rolled for several thousand...After quite a while with this watch off my wrist thanks to a dead movement, I just received a new movement to put into this self-built Tudor 79190 Submariner, and I can quite easily say that it won't be coming off my wrist:
Here's the gen 79190 for comparison... Look how easy that cyclops makes reading the date
Even if I had the cash to buy the gen counterpart, I would not, simply because this watch has personal history and sentimental value (I wore the bracelet and case in a GMT configuration on my honeymoon in Tokyo, the dial was a gift from a friend, the new movement was a gift from another friend and the crystal was from the very first project watch I built) An identical purchased gen would not have any of those things... It might well be 'gen', but in my eyes, it would always be 'less of a watch', and without personal connection. Is the watch perfect? Well, obviously, the insert needs replacing, and the case should have lug holes, I removed the cyclops myself, as I don't like them, but those things don't bother me as it's my watch...
At the end of the day, it's your call, I just wouldn't want you to drop the cash, only to wind up with buyer's remorse...
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Fantastic
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Just starting, Bro.....haven't even finished this one yet! Darn watch projects are getting into the reading time!LOL!
They're good stuff, I've been a fan of Lustbader's work for about 15 years now... With the Nicholas Linnear novels, it's best to start with the Ninja, so everything makes sense... My favorites, were actually the China Maroc trilogy (which he never finished), and if you read enough of the novels, such as Black Heart and French Kiss, it's almost like he's writing on auto-pilot and recycling characters, but there're also a few references to PP watches
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I'm curious as to if the rep ceramic inserts are more durable than the genuine inserts. Apart from scratches, I don't believe I have seen reports of anyone shattering a rep insert, but I have heard reports of the gen inserts shattering under certain conditions, such as the watch being dropped...
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Excellent choice in reading material, bro, have you read the other Nicholas Linnear novels as well?
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I really need to start writing down what I do on these to achieve the different tones.
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super watch!
Thanks bro, I guess it just doesn't feel like 'my watch'
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I've been 'slumming it' the last few days...
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Sheeeeiiiit, I was just thinking the other day if you'd be giving the project a go, I can't wait to see how it turns out
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Although I was never sold on them from the photos, once I saw a coke GMT 'in the flesh', it really grew on me as a watch
Other GMT options might be the Rootbeer GMT if you wanted a real challenge in building, or, had you considered putting the movement in an Explorer II? Personally, I'd vote for the Coke Never seen a Pepsi, but have got one on order, and you'd be welcome to the insert, as I probably won't be using it -
Still dying to know the techniques used to achieve these effects... I don't want to have to break out the sodium pentathol
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The generosity of the members of this community is humbling in its awesomeness
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Always a pleasure seeing shots from the Mod Shop
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As with many, my first rep was a modern Rolex Sub:
The first which actually had some sentimental value, and which I was totally comfortable wearing, was a 42mm Omega Planet Ocean:
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Wearing the on the left today
Awesome one on the right
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Yet making cars automatic is considered idiot-proofing.
Also, removing the ability for the general public to tinker with their engines has certainly not reduced demand for car designers.
I guess it depends on how one chooses to define the term... Automatic cars, personally, I would consider 'labor saving' rather than idiot proofing, afterall, a certain degree of nous and awareness is still required to be able to drive. For a car to be idiot proofed, I'd consider it to require full automatic driving (ie no need to manually steer) such as the cars in 6th Day or I, Robot, where the ability to actually know how to drive (beyond parking) is not a requirement...
Indeed, it hasn't reduced the demand for car designers, but, it does tie the consumer to 'authorized repair centers' for fear of validating a warranty, so the company retains the ability to keep charging the customer after the initial purchase (just like with Rolex service centers, for example) Sure, someone might feel happy doing repairs themselves for most things, but eventually, they might encounter a repair which is beyond their scope, so have to take it back to the garage for the service, only to be told "Sorry, you voided the warranty, it's not our problem anymore..." It's not just selling a product, but also forcing the buyer to remain in a closed market for future 'repairs/upgrades'...
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Yes, that was my point. Sorry if it wasn't clear.
I could also make out that Americans as a whole were worse drivers than Europeans because over 90% of them drive Automatics whereas it's under 10% in Europe, but the statistics don't bear that theory out either.
Ahh, I thought you were trying to say that idiot proofing doesn't create idiots, and using drivers as an example of modern drivers not having the knowledge of engines and car set up which a driver back in the 50s/60s/70s would almost certainly have had to a basic degree
I can just imagine Lewis Hamilton bending over an engine and being a bit 
...I see the point about driving automatic as opposed to manual... I wouldn't go so far as to say that someone who can only drive automatic is a worse driver per se, but I would acknowledge that there is a difference in skill sets involved. I wouldn't blame 'idiot proofing' for creating idiots though, I'd blame substandard education systems and fluoride in the drinking water
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Fantastic photos, and indeed, the Cobra would be my choice as well
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In 1980, I typed a basic programme into my mum's Commodore Pet and watched with amazement as it worked. Later on, I did the same on a ZX Spectrum and BBC Micro in the early 80s. Ah, what heady days!
It's easy to romanticise over these years, much like it is to look back fondly on sailing ships across the atlantic, when the reality is that it was a scurvy-filled hell.
No-one complains they can't root their microwave or overclock their coffee machine. In fact, console gamers have been perfectly happy to be locked into the exact same business model since the early 80s. Sure, you get the occasional hacker that will try to crack and chip their Xbox, but the majority of users don't care about that sort of thing. Same with the iPad; of course, it's already Jailbroken, why wouldn't it be?
Idiot Proofing doesn't create more idiots. How many race drivers can rebuild their engines? How many digital artists know how to write Wacom device drivers? And, to use a computing analogy, 99% of programmers haven't programmed in assembly since the 90s. Surely the C compiler would have killed programming dead, or Java would have done it, or Perl. How can you possibly imagine that creating more computer users than before would reduce the demand for high-quality programmers? It's a very unimaginative slippery slope fallacy, especially when you consider that introducing the iPad doesn't suddenly delete every other computer in the world.
Cory Doctorow is assuming a zero-sum game. He assumes that if the iPad succeeds, every other computer or tablet must fail, which is patently untenable, especially to a student of computer history. Besides, who says putting a device like the iPad in the hands of children won't make them all more creative? When faced with an eBook reader they can also write on, who's to say we won't have a necessary increase in literacy?
It's time to call bullsh!t on the argument there is one right way. Open-Source is great, so is closed-source. Good software doesn't need to be tied to one political view before it can be considered valid. Linux? Fantastic. Photoshop? Brilliant! Windows 7 Phone? Looks awesome. Mac OSX? Superb! Cory is a beard spurt away from becoming Stallman, the man who shackles himself to an inferior laptop simply because it's the only kind on the planet with an open-source BIOS. As long as there are nutters like him around, hackable devices will never disappear.
Excuse the length of this rant, but Cory Doctorow is wrong.
I don't think it would be a stretch of the imagination to say that 50, 40,30 years ago, the race drivers of the day would have, if not been able to build their engines themselves, certainly have had a working knowledge of the engines...
I'm still waiting to give the iPad a try, (and optimistically curious) but I have to agree with the point about Flash... I was trying to view a site earlier (advertising for Lambs Navy Rum) on my iPhone which I couldn't access due to the site using Flash... As mentioned above, it's tolerable on a smartphone all the time there's a desktop as a backup resource, but on something which might be purchased for someone instead of a netbook, I think it's somewhat less acceptable.
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That's looking fantastic
I love the squared crown guards, I've never noticed that aspect of that model before, but I love it Makes me all the more determined to build one myself -
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Keeping them dry was never my thing, i have only ever had one with water ingress and that was a speedmaster a long time ago, and lets face it the gen speedy was never much of a wet work watch.
I've never been able to see the point in taking a watch off, which is supposed to be water resistant (unless of course, it's on a leather strap like a PAM
)Great to see divers watches in water! where they belong i have found that most good reps are ok in water despite the dealers reconmending you keep them away from water,the number one rule is to remember that no watch even a gen is water resistant for ever, one of the reasons that watches were later marked water resistant instead of waterproof! as seen on some old seamasters, and these watches need service and when required replacing seals ect i have used my reps in the swimming pool and the sea without problems i found one of the best ways to check your watch at home is to remove the movement and dial leaving the crown and backcase closed and submerge your watch in a bucket of water overnight!
I read somewhere that speedmasters and datonas even gen are only water resistant when the subdial pushers are close and you must never operater the subdial pushers while you are underwater Please correct me if i wrong here!
Any members buying the new series 1665 with the superdome crystal have it checked we have found that a few have cracked crystals close to the base mabe caused when the crystal is fitted by the factory we had to replace our crystals with a homemade retaining ring!
Absolutely, I believe that's why the pushers have the screw down sleeves
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Hi all, sorry if i'm not posting in the right folder. Just have a general question that i hope to get help with.
Still a newbie, so far i have got a GMT IIc and waiting for a Chopard GT XL to arrive. I'm looking next for a daily beater, but it has to be more accurate than most reps. Basically, i'm hoping my next piece doesn't have too many tell-tale signs that even an amateur can tell it apart from a gen. Looking for a piece <$500 and after searching and reading many threads here, i've narrowed it down to these choices. Hope anyone can share their opinions on which i should and shouldn't get. And greatly appreciate if you can suggest like must get straps or simple mods to complement the watch of choice.
1) Brietling Skyland Avenger V2, Grey, SS
2) Hublot BB Tuiga, rubber
3) Ferrari Gran Turismo GMT FER0003 rubber
4) IWC 3717 SS
5) Sinn U1 rubber
Thanks all!
Gerald
Some excellent choices there. The only one from that list which I would choose myself, would be the Sinn, (and even then, there are many watches I like more than the Sinn) but that's just my own tastes... If you really can't decide, and like them all equally, I'd suggest letting one of these make the choice for you
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I might have a go at re-creating the Single Red Sub dial.
Takes a while though, so I'll check back in with an update in a coup;le of weeks or so.
Watch this space.
From the results I got blanking the text to create the 6200 dial, I definitely think that applying red to the corresponding white area of the backing transfer is the way to go to get the lettering to show as red
It won't be raised, of course, but it'll certainly look the business
Want to hear your opinions on purchasing first Gen.
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Absolutely spot on, bro
