By-Tor

The link to the PDF document for the bracelet seems to be broken.

Would anyone be able to fix it?

Thanks.

Fixed. Thanks for letting me know.

Couldn't get any daylight shots before it got too dark (long day at the office). But as promised... here are some quick studio shots (completely unedited and dirty).

With straight light exposure, no contrast correction or reflector cards.

Straight light exposure, auto levels and some cleaning. Colors 100% untouched.

Now see the contrasted studio shot. Black reflector card used.

Here's abat's photo of his SFSO lite:

And once again, the gen:

I'm not arguing about the blue color being on or off anymore... but you have to realize it looks completely different under different lighting conditions. It would be nice to see the rep and gen side-by-side. The rep dial might be a tad darker?

PS: can someone please tell king's site adress?

KING'S SITE

Great purchase Abat!

The blue is the schitt.

Carrera non-chrono is TAG's answer to Omega Aqua Terra. Nice classic look!

Enjoy!

They only need to change the maxi dial/hands, crystal and datefont, and it would be hands down the "best out of the box" Rolex rep ever. I would be satisfied with the dial & hands change alone. It looks fantastic.

Can't say the same about this other version. Sorry. We offered help for Angus and the factory that was doing this... they never came here and collected the information (that would have been freely available). If they never release the good version, I'll say f**k it... I've had enough of medicore Rolex reps.

I will definitely get the Dweller too... but I'd wait until the fat lady signs. I agree with Watcher, the rep looks much better in King's pics. However this doesn't change the fact that it's an inferior base watch.

The other version (with wrong maxi dial) is clearly superior base, because it has the very THICK rehaut (and double-"rehaut bevel"), which is imho very important and characteristic look for the Sea Dweller. This is clearly missing from the Joshua's version. Are me and bklm the only ones who see this?

I wouldn't jump on this just yet. Not until we see all the offerings.

Great GMT double-T!

I've been wearing my always amazing SMP chrono today. Unfortunately it's too cloudy and dark to take a fresh wrist shot.

I've been shooting new pics of my watches on this boring Sunday. Perhaps the all-time favorite rep in my collection. Enjoy (again)!

Agreed

But this one is not to be sold.. ever :-)

I always say the same thing when I get a new watch. And yet I've sold about 30 of them (gens and reps combined).

Personally, I wouldn't touch the dial. If someone doctors the dial (or even improves the lume), the watch might lose its value among the collectors. I think you got it for very nice price, and it might even be a decent investment (in the long run).

Keep it 100% original, that's always the best option with Rolexes.

BTw what is up with the lume?

How long does it need to recharge (has been in a box for most of last year)

Your ExpII has a tritium dial, which slowly loses most of its luminous abilities after 10-15 years. So if the lume is weak on your watch it's only natural. Nothing to worry about.

The newer versions have super luminova on the hour markers.

Personally, I couldn't give a rat's ass if the color shade of the blue is a bit different. Blue is usually the only option for me on sports watches.

Same thing with the Aquaracer. Even if the black and white versions are probably more accurate, they don't do anything for me. I think the best suggestion (for the guy who asked) is that you buy what you like the most. The chances that someone calls you out because of the lighter/darker shade of blue on your watch are about 1:100000. I bet I won't live long enough to meet someone other who owns this exact same Breitling model... at least in my neck of woods.

That's a fantastic watch, enjoy it!

PS: 1800€ wasn't a bad deal at all. I absolutely love the white ExpII (well, I love the black too). Such an under appreciated Rolex.

I wish the rep makers would replicate the white ExpII with the proper black hour marker surroundings, it's such a beauty!

Looks good and genuine to me.

Blue dials have been traditionally very difficult to replicate properly. It looks like the SFSO is no exception then. Would love to see the actual gen vs. rep comparison though.

@italiano: You're probably right. The gen looks lighter and less colorful, but it's not that much different (just imho). Found this old wristshot, which is straight out of the camera (just cropped).

First rep, then gen.

I looked at Google and Ebay, and found very conflicting "evidence". There are pics where the blue looks almost spot on, like this:

But it looks lighter and more "cyan" in other pics. Maybe there's a difference between the production runs again... just like the seconds hand and bracelet?

Or perhaps the rep dial is indeed darker and more violet? I have never taken daylight shots of the SFSO... I'll snap some tomorrow or day after (if I have time).

The blue color is spot on, as far as I can tell. The wristshot Italiano posted looks exactly like the rep blue... the pic is just very bright.

My pictures of the SFSO have been taken in a studio setup and under fluorescent lighting, so the color might look a bit different in a natural lighting. They're also contrasted a bit.

The rep dial can look very different... even 100% gray, depending of the the angle to take a picture from. I might shoot some outside wrist shots next week for reference, and post to this thread.

Edit: Actually the rep dial might be a bit more "violet". I have to see how the pics turn out in a daylight.

It's the front rehaut thickness & shape which looks all wrong on Joshua's version... just like bk said. It's excellent on King's.

People usually don't discuss this very apparent flaw at all, although it's very easy and quick way to tell between rep and gen. This is the same reason why I think Noob factory GMT and Sub are superior to all others.

See this reference pic to understand what I mean. This area is exceptionally thick on a Dweller, and has very characteristic shape when you look it from the angled view.

Boring Sunday... so I composed this. Such a different watch with different bezels.

If you forget the stupid maxi-dial and wrong date font, King's Dweller looks much better. Excellent rehaut/crystal profile, much better cg's and crown... unless it's the same base watch and Josh's photos are just deceiving.

Once again, thanks for posting this here, much appreciated. These kind of do-it-yourself tutorials are excellent and valuable.

The dial looks fantastic, is it a Noobmariner dial?

We've done this before. Check this thread HERE. It has some real masterpieces.

SOSF, without a doubt. Perhaps the best rep ever produced.