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Is this all you can show us here?
Just kidding, these straps look awesome!! Care to show us more or your strap collection? You're defintely running up for the "Ms Strap Tanfoglio" title
Well, as I've said a couple of times, Scoobs, WITH REGRET, that time I posted the Strapitis thread it brought me a lot of comments about my personal situation, social background, parental stuff...that wasn't cool. That thread became about me and my life, rather than my straps.
Click on it, as I hyperlinked to it above, and you will see...
So unfortunately, I will not repeat that "collection shot".
Instead, I promise to always vary my Wrist-Checks with new straps, which in fact forces me to wear some which normally I don't (I have a Historic Mustard Strapmasters which cost a fortune...and I never wear it, sigh).
That way you can see what I say is the truth. Not that you were implying this, of course! Just sayin'.
And you're damn right I want to be Mrs. Tanfo. My God, match made in heaven! His watchwinder or mine?
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Yah, spotted that myself, though no expert on Pams. Looked good though, better than I thought a Pam would on the wrist (not a fan). Has got me interested in that model. Come on guys, which one was it, 176 as VB says?
Incidentally, I'm shocked how unimaginative celebs are about straps.
Ex-President Clinton wears his 089 on the Diver Strap (which is fine, but not for official engagements with a suit!).
Crown Prince Felipe might have a large Mario Paci, GeF, and Toscana collection, but he's invariably seen wearing his 164 on the OEM Brown Gator it came with.
Orlando Bloom wore the OEM Burgundy on that Fiddy in Elizabethtown, we finally figured out, and on his own Cali 249, he wears the OEM calf tan it also came with.
WTF?
I'm glad Umberto Eco was wearing his aftermarket strap. But then, he's Italian and has taste.
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You need a tootall chupacabra.
Holy crepe. I'll order it just for the name!
Any pics?
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God save the Queen.
Miss Barrett
And Miss Barrett's dad,
In any order you like.
My dad, first. Me, I'm young, and the Queen is going to live to be older than dirt like her Mum.
And Ryyannon, miss you. But then, you're tired of hearing that I betcha...still miss you.
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Hey vic you have an awesome strap collection!!
Thanks, UB7!
BTW, my collection is not anything compared to V or Rolli. No clue what Sssurfer has, but I suspect he likes his actual watches more than straps.
These gentlemen, however, are the true Paneristi here. I'm merely starting out and as DBR says, like to shop.
Would you willing to sell that beautiful Strapmasters Cognac?Not on your Nellie!
Seriously, not selling a darn thing in these forums. Just posted a WTB elsewhere, so if you have another Woj Case, a Micah Pale Rider, or a Don English Bridle (tan), any size, PM.
Otherwise, tough noogies.
EDIT: Check it here. Believe this was the one.
http://www.strapmastersusa.com/Merchant2/m...Product_Count=5
Must be on sale, since mine was about $40-50 higher, IIRC.
Wait until Christmas for the Strapmasters, I've been told. Loads of sale then...
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Hello Victoria,
Back in May I purchased a strap on Paneristi from a young chap named Kyle Welch. (went by the name of HC straps). Kyle was recently married and also just graduated from university so he has been busy with other pursuits. The boy can build a strap. Mine is called "buffalo brown."
KEWL!! This is precisely what I was searching for. The relatively unknown, just starting out kind of guys.
Not only are they cheaper (and I'm the Queen of the Cheapies...got two Europelli of my 5 for about U$30 each!), but often they have interesting hides, and certainly give one the most bang for buck.
Tootall and Savage are exceptional in that regard, if you're looking for straps tailored JUST for you, at comparatively decent prices.
Thanks, Vlydog! Hope you enjoyed the shout-out. I never forget a kindness. (I hope).
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Hey there H&P.
Our Pugwash has some great screen captures of Ewan wearing his PAM on said proggy, on my "Celebs wearing Panerai" thread.
Looks like the Titanium base, 176 to me (on plain OEM black calf). Thoughts?
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You know I'm going to disagree, so let's at least get past the part where I wish your dad well. Good luck, VB's dad.
Baby, thanks so much for that. Really.
Allow me to say this to you, and through you, to others:
I know we're going to disagree about many things, but I am not in any doubt as to your native intelligence, whether or not I agree with you. Sometimes when people disagree, it seems like they not only dismiss their views, but their very intelligence. That is wrong, IMO. And disrespectful.
Wish it weren't the case on the internet, but that remove seems to make even normally cowardly people into lions online.
As I was saying, if I were subject to a leader whose idea of helping was talking to his imaginary friend, I'd vote the other way next time.I'm sure Wendell Wilkie would've appreciated your vote.
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Well, guys. I think I've near about conquered my Strapitis.
Yesterday, I pulled the Trigger on my last "desire" (a KWong strap).
When I went to look at my collection, which are all in breathable pouches and yellow envelopes, the better to ward off mould or possible water staining, I realised that since I started my Strap obsession this past July, I had bought just about every strap I had my heart set on possessing.
Name it, I got it.
Sometimes, SEVERAL times over.
OEMs? Check. PAV 91? Check. Metta Catherina? Check. Greg Stevens? Check. Dirk? Check. Strapmasters? Check.
Ferretti, Hirsch, HKTAN, Camille Fournet, Manifatture Firenze, Simona, Delaurian, Don, Bob, Sirtoli, ABP, Banda, Europelli, Germano, Wojtecki, StrapCulture, StrapWorks, StrapCode/Taikonaut, StrapZone, Micah, Zeugma, Walter, Jswing, Riva, Rios, Pawmarker, CharlyJakob, IW Suisse, cheapos from Panatime, and The Watch Prince (the strapmaker not the collector), and of course, Mario Paci up the wazoo, as well as Giovanni e Figlio and ALL the Toscana.
Needless-to-say, I also have straps from our own in-house strapmakers, including V (my first custom-made Greek hide Panerai strap!!), Tootall, Savage, FxrAndy. I intend on getting a Frogman soon. I possibly will get a VDBroucke or an Adeeos/Kevin, but since vintage ammo is not my thing, and look masculine on me, it's hard to justify the expense.
Of the brands mentioned in the official Risti Strap site, I am only missing "Atelier Jean Rousseau". Since they duplicate OEMs in special orders, I thought it was redundant, and never got anything from them.
hxxp://www.paneristi.com/straps/index.html (change xx to tt)
So this is my question to you:
What strapmaker for Panerai am I missing?
I know I'm missing one from Gabomagic, which thanks to Vlydog, I got a heads up on, a while ago. EDIT 16 Dec 2007: As featured in the SOTWW, I do now have a Gabo Johnnie Walker strap.
I am missing Dino Zei, and a Xa-Mas, though V told me long ago that the GeF La Spezia is made of the same hide.
I am missing an Enzo, but I emailed him without reply.
When searching for more straps to buy, I came across this wonderful forum checklist:
hxxp://www.6speedonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46676 (again, change xx to tt)
Never got anything from Acetimer in California, Adam-Co in Tel-Aviv, or from Jetan. I got my Dirks from BigB on Risti, so I think that counts.
Other than that, done.
Check this out:
L to R: Camille Fournet Beavertail, Simona Bordeau, Strapmasters Cognac, Delaurian Devil Red, Dirk NOS Tan.
L to R: Manifatture Firenze Hammered Brown, Greg Stevens Crazy Horse w/ Antique Stitching, PAV 91
On the PAM 113, of course the strap I showed in today's Wristcheck, the GeF La Spezia in Cognac.
Let me hear your thoughts, or if you have any questions, call this a mini-Strap Caper and ask away. I love Straps, and hope to refine my tastes, not just visually, but in knowing how they are made, one day.
And no, I won't make my own. I like my manicures too much.
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As you may know, my dad is currently in hospital. In a private, Catholic hospital in fact, which was a blessing today, since a priest came over when I was there, and gave my father Holy Communion, leading my mum, he and I in brief prayer.
He's a retired priest, being possibly over 80, which I suspect given what I'm about to tell you below. He goes around patients' beds to take the load off of other priests' duties, and we for one, were thankful for it.
Afterwards, he and I got to talking.
To my astonishment, he was a World War II vet, and was present in the second wave of invasions on D-Day. You could've knocked me down with a feather when I heard that.
I've met very few men who were there on D-Day, and I confess, tears instantly came to my eyes in gratefulness at the courage this kid (as he must've been then) displayed, like thousands of others did storming the beaches of Normandy.
The Padre, with shaking hands but not of emotion, just because he's old now, comforted ME. He thought of me first, not of himself.
That is so at odds with the post-modern Western world, where it's such a Me-First, Me-Last mentality, that it's simple, and decent, and beautiful.
I thanked him again for his prayers, saying how much they seem to help some people.
He closed his eyes, and remembered that when the D-Day Invasion was on its way, the then President of the United States of America, Franklin D. Roosevelt (DEMOCRAT, need I remind you, and the closest politician in the White House to being a Socialist Americans have ever had), gave one of his famous "Fireside Chats", leading the entire nation in prayer for the safety of the men and women who were giving their lives that very day.
Can you imagine that today? A president, any president not just mentioning God, the Almighty, but leading a nation in PRAYER over the airwaves?
I had read of it, but I had never heard it.
Here it is, for the record, in .rm format and written out. Perhaps you may enjoy it, or at least, wonder at it, as I did.
http://easylink.playstream.com/historyplac...p-fdr-prayer.rm
My Fellow Americans:
Last night, when I spoke with you about the fall of Rome, I knew at that moment that troops of the United States and our Allies were crossing the Channel in another and greater operation. It has come to pass with success thus far.
And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in prayer:
Almighty God: Our sons, pride of our nation, this day have set upon a mighty endeavor, a struggle to preserve our Republic, our religion, and our civilization, and to set free a suffering humanity.
Lead them straight and true; give strength to their arms, stoutness to their hearts, steadfastness in their faith.
They will need Thy blessings. Their road will be long and hard. For the enemy is strong. He may hurl back our forces. Success may not come with rushing speed, but we shall return again and again; and we know that by Thy grace, and by the righteousness of our cause, our sons will triumph.
They will be sore tried, by night and by day, without rest -- until the victory is won. The darkness will be rent by noise and flame. Men's souls will be shaken with the violences of war.
For these men are lately drawn from the ways of peace. They fight not for the lust of conquest. They fight to end conquest. They fight to liberate. They fight to let justice arise, and tolerance and goodwill among all Thy people. They yearn but for the end of battle, for their return to the haven of home.
Some will never return. Embrace these, Father, and receive them, Thy heroic servants, into Thy kingdom.
And for us at home -- fathers, mothers, children, wives, sisters, and brothers of brave men overseas, whose thoughts and prayers are ever with them -- help us, Almighty God, to rededicate ourselves in renewed faith in Thee in this hour of great sacrifice.
Many people have urged that I call the nation into a single day of special prayer. But because the road is long and the desire is great, I ask that our people devote themselves in a continuance of prayer. As we rise to each new day, and again when each day is spent, let words of prayer be on our lips, invoking Thy help to our efforts.
Give us strength, too -- strength in our daily tasks, to redouble the contributions we make in the physical and the material support of our armed forces.
And let our hearts be stout, to wait out the long travail, to bear sorrows that may come, to impart our courage unto our sons wheresoever they may be.
And, O Lord, give us faith. Give us faith in Thee; faith in our sons; faith in each other; faith in our united crusade. Let not the keeness of our spirit ever be dulled. Let not the impacts of temporary events, of temporal matters of but fleeting moment -- let not these deter us in our unconquerable purpose.
With Thy blessing, we shall prevail over the unholy forces of our enemy. Help us to conquer the apostles of greed and racial arrogances. Lead us to the saving of our country, and with our sister nations into a world unity that will spell a sure peace -- a peace invulnerable to the schemings of unworthy men. And a peace that will let all of men live in freedom, reaping the just rewards of their honest toil.
Thy will be done, Almighty God.
Amen.
Franklin D. Roosevelt - June 6, 1944
Amen, Mr. President. And thanks. Prayers are a comforting thing, since they cost nothing, and give everything.
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I will try my best, Sssurfer! Already did it above for you.
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On another model I pursued retail is now $6200 new, available from large dealer for $5,300 and purchasable privately for $4,500. So Panerai watches are now much more available over here and the secondary market is not looking very different from any other watch.
Is anyone else stunned the PAM 217 (we gotta find a nickname for it. Fiddy-Lefty? Eh) is STILL AVAILABLE??
And somehow "only" 11.5. I dunno, I just imagined it would be much more than that, and long since gone, like the Fiddy itself.
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woot radiomir 292 ceramic! $6k aint bad
YES! I was stunned to see that actually, especially considering the HBBs. I think anything under $10k is doable for middle-class people, with saving and sacrifice, perhaps selling off lots of watches they have now.
Anything above that...well, Hamburger Helper I was told is nice.
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COOL! Congrats, GTD. Last I saw, this was worth over $1,000?
Unless he has a cheaper version! Anyway, the look goes well with your build and colouring. Enjoy!
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I'm in the Netherlands, item was sent from Texas.
It is a member sale, not from any of the Eastern collectors.
If it's sent in an envelope, no Customs form. If there is a Customs form, that acts as a kind of tracking number in and of itself, in terms of assurance.
I did not negotiated any form of shipment, nor a custom's value or description, never done in the past. I always let it up to the seller. With over 30 trades with unique members it always turned out good, both custom's or otherwise (communication etc). But maybe i should in the future.No matter if you are a seasoned veteran or wet-behind-the-ears newbie, never fail to cross every t and don't every i before buying anything in these forums, especially. When it is an international transaction, forget about it. Try your utmost to protect yourself.
Personally, if I got a "funny feeling" in the pit of my stomach about a transaction, I'd cancel it immediately. It's not worth the bother to go chasing after people.
I had an item I really really wanted once, but the seller gave me a feeling of doubt. Since he didn't bother to respond to my emails asking for payment info, the transaction was never completed, but I was going to back out anyway.
Later, I find out he's a scammer and banned on another forum. Whew.
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So my opinion is:
For trade
No Photoshop.
reviewsPhotoshop okay.
comparison purposesNo Photoshop or with before/afters showing alteration.
My 2 drachmas.
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Who say this watch is fugly are either jealous or have no taste at all, i personally think its simply beautiful, the watch is completely covered with diamonds,tourbillion also shows that the watch is also a mechanical masterpiece.as material value the rubber strap is a joke but it makes the watch body stand out.
If i had billions i would buy this to my wife (then a million is like pocket money
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Bizarre idea. There are too many variables in your opinion. That there are no rich people here, that they are jealous, that they have no taste (in the absolute sense, not the ephemeral personal sense).
It reminds me of people who critique (as an example) Britney Spears, and one of their fans says to them, "You're all just jealous of her, because she's rich and has talent!".
Uh, no.
People can critique someone or something based on perceptions of bad taste. The Million Dollar Big Bang certainly qualifies.
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This wasn't the place to publish mines.
Stephane, as long as this doesn't make you post less, no worries. I'm sure you will take appropriate action privately, and that's fine.
If this is the case, feel better soon. If not, feel better anyway.
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LOVELY, TWP!! There is a difference between the Fiddy and the other lumes, just like in the DSN versions.
And I think I spy one of mine there, too.
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I've checked the USPS site, but information is inconclusive, so i wonder how does confirm number work, and is it available without tracking.
Sorry for your troubles, SlickDick. Did you know what the seller intended before you bought the item? Because I never give money to those in China, or anywhere in the Far East, without confirmable tracking, usually from EMS.
This ends in "CN" from China, or "HK" from Hong Kong, etc. and is easily trackable after 2 days of being given the number, on the USPS tracking area right on the first page.
http://www.usps.com/shipping/trackandconfirm.htm
Delivery confirmation internationally IN THE US won't even, I believe, notify YOU whether you have received the package or not. That's self-evident, since obviously you will have the package. What it does is to tell the seller you have received it.
Many questions here, such as where are you, where is the package coming from, did you make sure you negotiated shipping before buying the item, etc.
But overall, "confirm number" is very vague.
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Prices current as of 1 September 2007.
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WEDNESDAY
Pinky ring! Plus Giovanni e Figlio's La Spezia in Cognac on Andrew's PAM 113.
:wub:
I like 'em thick and long. Now you know.
Seriously, this strap packs a wallop at 6.5mm thick and a buckle at 3mm. I can't even imagine what it might weigh on the hefty Fiddy!
A strap which glistens whiskey-red in the sun, but at night, it's as dark as molasses. Love it, Dluddy! (Sox in 5)
THURSDAY
I believe the kids these days refer to this as, "This is the sh*t right here".
My new Silix DJ Rollie with Roman numerals. I'm in love.
Vrroooom! The crazy girl racing around SoFla with a new Rollie on her wrist is me. Wave as you pass by!
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bottom line...what is the purpose of your visit? If you're going to be dealing with the locals, do you really want to get yourself labeled and possibly have your business dealing held in low regard...
Hit. Nail. Head.
If it's for pleasure, knock yourself out. If it's for business, think of going to the Middle East as if you were going to an AD -- with a girlfriend who doesn't know you buy reps.
The last thing you want to be doing, is taking your rep to an AD if there's the slightest chance you'll be called out in front of your girlfriend.
Sleazeball-City.
(If you're lying about that, what else are you lying about or failing to mention? Why open up this moral can of worms?)
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*edit to admit, yes I thought she was hot once. I've since grown and realized how sad she really is. Ashton Kutcher.... wow.... bad choices abound.*
Demi and her voice in St. Elmo's Fire.
Michael Moore, total "I forget I have a G-Spot when I look at him".
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Thanks, too, Estaban!![:)](https://rwg.cc/datastore/emoticons/emoticons/default_smile.png)
See, I love tans and reds. Dislike blacks, and dark browns. Not a fan of the sharkies, but love many exotic hides. Want a chicken one day.
As per Lanikai, demurred when I saw an Elephant for sale by Simona. Won't court the bad kharma. Would also never wear a Dolphin, for the same reason. Irrational, but there we are.
The Aubergine Bob Gator sounds fun! Will check that out. I need more Woj's, too.
I KNEW I FORGOT ONE!
Kaktus. Don't got, don't want.
Greg...well, I'm afraid I used to agree with you. But man, are his Crazy Horse wonderful. I have 3, plus about 3 other varieties, and they are all fantastic, and importantly for us, age very well.
Good choices!
Mine, given your criteria, excepting TT/Savage:
Toscana, GeF, Manifatture Firenze
Mine:
Mario Paci, Wojtecki, Zeugma
Overrated, with a million regrets:
Europelli Cordovan, Europelli Baseball, Kaktus, some Don's...(he's so nice too)
And I think EVERY Panerista should own at least one Dirk in their lifetime, even if they cost a lot.
Love it, love it. Am trying to get a Stingray from that company Doc-Bearcat, and TWP once posted about. They sell straps for uncommonly cheap prices.
Will compare my shot to yours, when I do!![:)](https://rwg.cc/datastore/emoticons/emoticons/default_smile.png)