TeeJay

You really think Josh or any other dealer is putting a correct return address on their packages? The watch is lost my friend.

Okay, that is a fair enough point, but, in all honesty, that is a risk that dealers face with customs seizures. I'm sure either Andrew or Josh has previously issued straight replacement of goods which were seized, which, in theory, would put them down two watches, not just the one. As above, by all means only issue a refund for the amount minus the original shipping, but 55%... Sorry, that's just not justifiable. It's the risk of being a dealer, and not a fair cost to put back onto the customer in such a way.

Have him ship the watch to a trustworthy member in a neighboring country, then have it forwarded to you. Germany is pretty vigilant in looking closely at incoming pakages from China. Routing it through the UK might be a safer idea. As for Josh not refunding your money, I don't blame him. He has obviously built a "seizure" cost into your cost. If he ships you a second watch he breaks even, if he refunds he loses.

He would only lose the cost of shipping. The watch has been returned to him. If it was my transaction, I would accept a refund minus the cost of first shipping, but seriously, how can Joshua justify keeping 55% of the money? For something he has received back? It's daylight robbery, nothing more, nothing less.

I didn't back peddle from anything...

Yes, you did. I've quoted your original post above. Read it. You may not have intended your post to come across like you were making fun of what Tom does for a living, but it certainly reads like that was your intention. Again, apologies if that is a misunderstanding on my part.

And, since you aren't simply confused... keep your two faced, self righteous crap to your own.

I'm not being two-faced at all, and as for self-rightous, that applies way more to your posts towards Tom, so stop condescending towards me.

Did you just try and PM me? For some reason it is not appearing in my inbox, although I received a notification while in the middle of sending another PM.

Wow.

I am absolutely disgusted to hear about such an attitude for someone to take. 45% is an inexcuseable insult. Okay, so it might have cost him money to ship the watch, but, it has been returned to him. There is no need for him to keep 55% of your money. To refuse to cancel the order and simply refund it is utterly disgracefull and thoroughly unprofessional.

It sounds like the customs officer really did do their research, so all credit to them for actually doing their job properly, but as for Joshua's attitude, although I have not been impressed with him at all, I'd certainly never expect to see such a case of blatant robbery.

Best of luck with a successful resolution, and, of course, welcome to the forum

I take it I shouldn't be looking after my godson in this manner...

Actually, what I said was he was lucky it was illegal to pay him what he was worth...

No you didn't, you said:

Of course, the point is probably lost on you...

To only pay half of "Burger Flipper" wages for you, would be illegal in the US... lucky you.

Why would the point be lost on him, if he could afford the cost of repairs anyway? You implied (or certainly appeared to) that he was in a low-paid job. This impression was created by the preceding part of your comment:

What do YOU do?

What he does, and what he is paid, is irrelevent to the issue. Namely, that he asked for help, was given the brush off, and did not get any other responces until he started the thread.

He discredited himself with his unwarranted tirades..

I agree, not the best way to get people to help, but, if it touches a nerve, then maybe people ought to think why.

If people had come forward and initially responded, then he wouldn't have felt the need to do this. I don't agree with the way he's gone about it, but I think the point he raises is a valid one, in terms of people not offering him help.

It's like the comment Chieftang made about sending the watches to TWP or RBJ. It came across as a suggestion that they are not good modders. I don't know who RBJ is, but, the majority of work I've seen from TWP has been excellent, certainly not work to be scoffed at. We're all Human, we all have our off days. I prefer to judge someone by their overall portfolio of work, rather than only focussing on negative aspects. For the record, I'd fully trust TWP to work on one of my watches, and indeed, plan on doing so when I have the spare cash to do so.

And I am giving you the benefit of the doubt when calling you confused...

Oh, you think you're being generous, do you? I'm not the one who made an unnecessary comment to someone and is now trying to backpeddle out of it. Maybe I misunderstood your intention, if so, I apologize. Your comment appeared rather straight-forward in its intention.

Peace be upon you.

I was thinking about that as well actually TeeJay. The only reason I am getting the Mont Blanc is that Louis Vuitton has almost become the clich

This is beautiful watch, anyone make a rep of it?

I'd like it if it weren't for the datewheel and chronos... Other than that, banging watch. The strap is particularly awesome

You're a badass!!!

If the knife's good enough for MacGyver, it's good enough for me

As promised, watch, phone and knife

My favorite of all my wathes. My 127, now fitted with a set of River's springbars

The obligatory 'cream sweater shot':

Closeup:

As promised, photos of my

IMPORTANT NOTICE!!!

If you ever intend to use the springbars with a dive strap, ORDER A SET FOR EXCLUSIVE USE with that dive strap. Do not plan on removing them from the dive strap. Ever. It is EXTREMELY difficult, and will likely result in damage to the strap, the bar, or both. With leather straps, by all means swap away, but rubber, consider it being a permanant mod to the strap, rather than part of the watch.

Normal broadcasting will now resume

I'm a definite convert now Can't see the point in using screws when the springbars look the part and are easier to swap out

I think it's certainly an issue which it can only be helpful to discuss. I don't think anyone is intending or trying to take customers away from Ziggy, just to give people more options which might be closer to home. I think R11co's post is also incredibly relevent to the view people might be wise to consider.

I personally would rather source my own watch repairs locally, which I have done, rather than add credence to a system that will give our dealers an excuse to push the price of our watches up with little or no way for us to verify that we have actually received anything for the extra cash.

For what it's worth, I've never had any problems with my Asian movements which I didn't cause myself. I found a local jewelers, who took watch repairs, and, I had them work on a few watches (just regulation and waterproofing) It turns out, that they sent the watches away to an independant watchsmith, rather than being carried out 'in house'. Those watches came back okay, so, when the back of my 111h got broken (by me) I took the watch in for servicing. This is where things started getting bad. When the watch was first returned, it stopped at precicely the same time every 12 hours, so I took it back. When it was returned the second time, there was dust on the dial and back of the crystal, and, the lower movement retaining clip had not been put in, so the movement was loose. To add insult to injury, the smith had put the screw back in place, but not the retaining clip

To make matters worse, while the watch was being serviced, I was contacted by the jewellers to let me know that the watchsmith would be retiring at the end of the year. Wouldn't've been an issue if the watch had been returned okay, but, returned with such rudimentary flaws, really irritating, made more so by the knowledge that, even if I'd said something to the staff in the jewellers, they simply couldn't do anything about it. Oh well. Back on topic...

Depending on one's budget, it might be better to source simple movement repairs locally, and keep the big bucks for sending watches away to have modifications (re-lume etc) done... Of course, finding a good local watchsmith is the hard part

I heard its beacuse the Chinese rep workers like to use it as spice on their dog or cat meat its a trend dont ask me why.

Like that vodka with gold flakes in it? I remember hearing that back in the 70s, additives were added to dog food to make their 'waste' luminous so people wouldn't tread on it in parks (of course, the only people in parks after dark tend to be perverts ) but the trend didn't continue... Instead, the government brought inti fouling laws and make owners clean up after their dogs immediately

That's because the hands come from one source and the dials from another.

Such a simple reason, but one I'd never considered

Ok now give us some Nicola pics man

This one's in the public domain already, so a quick re-post won't hurt.

TeeJay, poor dear, confused as ever... my swat was not at burger flippers, but at the worth of the poster...

There was nothing to be confused about. You insinuated that they were a burger flipper, or got paid burger flipper wages. It was unnecessary. It makes no difference what the person does, or how much they earn, so your comment was an unnecessary low blow to try and discredit them.

Get Kenberg's Mont Blanc nightflight bag... that's what I'm gonna do. How come only women get to have fun with reps of luxury bags?

I've got my eye on the Louis Vuitton messenger bag, but I need to save my pennies first

which one would you pick? (if the pics are offensive Admin/mod please take them off)

Seeing as we're talking jeans here, I'd say whichever pair would last longest (although my preference is for paler jeans rather than dark blue)

If we're talking asses, then ass number one (or should that be door number two ) would be my choice...

haha, good laugh, I thought at first it was gonna be "imo" a outrages ammount like at least 3x zero's, but 110 usd is not much at all "imo", I think in Europe or at least western europe you can barely get a casual jeans that looks somewhat descent for 110 usd. I guess it where you comin from and what is the average. Like now in Netherland where I grew up it's like 160-200 euro is the norm for brand design jeans "for men" btw. For women not only do you have 5x more shops and choices the starting prices are equally less expensive.

Now i'm In thailand however, you can get okay okay jeans for like 5euro, and awesome quality for like 20-30 euro (no use in buying actual brand here as they copy and fake everything so wearing the real deal won't give you perse status-symbol as is required in the west). Besides how good can the quality of jeans be??! from a brand, usually just like with Gen watches you pay for the brandname and illusion/status-symbol/feeling it gives you!

This is so true. I've had pairs of Levi jeans rip through in a matter of weeks after purchase, when all I was doing, was crouching down... (Note, they ripped through at the knees, not in the seat )

Since then, it's economy jeans all the way for me

Can we see a pic?

I can't accomodate such a request right now, but give me 12 hours, and I'll see what I can come up with

What do YOU do? And are you willing to do the same work for a bunch of people who seen to do nothing but criticize, haggle for lower prices, and bicker like children for less than half the prevailing wage for your labor?

Not directed at me, I know, but, I'll give a quick answer. No, I would not. Then again, I would not offer my services to people like that in the first place. If people choose to advertize their businesses in a certain manner, they must accept that they will get enquiries from all manner of people who frequent that place/thing.

Of course, the point is probably lost on you...

To only pay half of "Burger Flipper" wages for you, would be illegal in the US... lucky you.

That, however, is an unecessary low blow. What someone does for their wages should never be ridiculed. If it were not for 'burger flippers', then millions of people would go without meals. Without street cleaners, our streets would be filled with garbage. Without restroom attendants, conveniences would look like they were hosed down with sewerage, and likely smell like it to.

What people have to do to earn their wages is irrelevent in matters of pride, the only time it need be considered, is that those on lower incomes, have to be more carefull how they spend such income, so are less able to afford the luxury of choice in things.

Just my .2c

****If you are still able to tell time with it, it may not be the right time.

*****If you are able to tell the right time with it, it may only occur twice in a day.

The consistency of the lume can also vary between the hands and the dial markings, with one being brighter than the other. Although it's not too bad when the hands are brighter than the dial, as it's still possible to get the position, when the dial is brighter than the hands, it can be harder to judge where the hands are... Of all my watches, my PVD 111g has the best lume (and with hands slightly brighter than the dial) The lume on my 127 is the same order (hands brighter than dial), but it's not as long-lasting as the 111g's lume, hense, why, when I get enough spare cash, I'll be sending the 127 off to TWP for a a Plume job