TeeJay
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Since it's a long-term project anyway, I'd certainly explore the EU route if I were you. You've got nothing to lose and everything to gain by finding one in Germany, for instance.
On the other hand, going over to the U.S. and tracking one down might be a great adventure and a wonderful experience.
I wonder how much one in show-car condition would cost....?
Update: over $100,000 for certain mint late 60s models
http://www.oldride.com/classic_cars/chevro...&offset=160
Otherwise, from $500 (project car) and up, depending on year and condition.
Here's a general link that should keep you busy:
Thanks for the links
You're right, an EU purchase could well cut back on some expenses, it's certainly worth a look, although as you say, going to the US to get one would be a great adventure Show-condition cars cost a fortune... I've seen enough episodes of Over-haulin' and Wrecks to Riches to know that in pristine condition, the cars command a high price. Fortunately, I'm looking for one that's not so perfect, to give it the 'personality' which Bumblebee had during the first half of the movie. I recal reading that that filming car was sold on eBay, and brought a price as high as a pristine car, simply because it was the movie production car. The 're-boot' car would also be nice, but, that was a custom-built concept car, which was actually built on a heavily modified Pontiac GTO with moldings and parts (even the wheels were faked) so that would also command a ludicrously high price (as would the real thing when it's released
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A year ago, I'd've never thought such a thing possible, but, this is now my firm favorite
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TeeJay, you realize that a real '76 Camaro wont "transform" into a guardian robot, right????
What?!?!?! You're [censored] shitting me, right?!?!
You mean I don't push a button on the dash and get a robot guardian to help me get the girl and defend me from school bullies?!?! Well [censored] that [censored] then, I'll look for something else... I've seen the Citroen adverts... Those bitches transform!!!!
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The 'skating' robot appears to have been a design fore-runner for Bumblebee...
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TeeJay, good luck to you. When I was a child, my father imported an automatic car for my mother from the US, so she could drive around the UK. She doesn't do "stick" as Americans say. And she preferred the left-hand ride.
Guess what? It was 1982 Camaro Barretta (sp?), if memory serves. Great muscle car.
What I recall is that the VAT almost killed him, but he got a break because they had owned it for a while -- a year or so. I think there's a discount if you can claim it's your regular mode of transport in the US, and need it as such in the UK.
So far, both Narikaa and Andy's suggestions seem the best. Sorry I can't help more.
You'll look a treat in it, as she did, I'm sure.
P.S.: Actually, I can help you A BIT. I am going to buy a car this January, so these sites and I have become very close friends:
Once you get a beat on your Camaro, be sure to get the VIN number. In the latter site, you can check its history, including if it's been in accidents to check the sturdiness of the frame, etc.
This site tells you what a car should be worth, key if you're a foreigner getting jacked for the price, the very famous Kelley Blue Book.
Well, they don't exactly answer your question, but perhaps they can help you in your quest.
@Ape: Hmm, could be. Doesn't sound right, except for the -etta ending. I remember thinking the Camaro was cool because it kinda resembled our name. *g*
Thanks for the links, I'll give them a look
I know there are UK magazines dealing in American cars, but, that's just asking to get my pants pulled down over the price, which was why I thought buying in the US and then importing it might be a cheaper option. Thanks to Narikaa's link, I've discovered that the VAT applies if the owner is importing it within 6 months of ownership. This won't be a purchase I'll be making for a while, but I wanted to try and get the facts well ahead of time. What I'm thinking might be worth doing, is, tracking down a car in the US, going over to see it, test drive it, etc, and buy it, then throw it in storage for 6 months with one of those storage companies and return to the UK. 6 months down the line, I can then make the plans to bring it over, and get round the 6 month ownership criteria -
How big are you, TeeJay?
I might have just what you're looking for
Mint condition!
Well, it's the right color at least...
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First thing: Learn to spell the name of the car you're looking for. You'd be surprised how much that can help in online searches.
ps. I have it on good authority that Bumblebee was a 1976 Camaro, not a '78
I was about to say, I believe they actually used a 1977, I keep thinking 78 as that's my date of birth... I'm no mathmagician
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You're quite right, it was the 76, not 77 (or 78
) model The fact I'm not looking for one in pristine condition will certainly help keep the price down 
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UK is left sided driving. => problems?
I wouldn't go so far as to call it a 'problem', as there are plenty of left hand drive cars in the UK, it might just make visibility slightly less easy
Why not ask Google?Thanks for the link, I'll certainly look into it, I just wondered if folks might've had any personal insight rather than just 'facts and figures' on a site
why not get one from germany, theres are losts of old US cars over here, have a lookThat's a fantastic suggestion, it would certainly solve a long freight trip for the car, would be a very good 'getting to know you/test drive', and of course, put me in the area for the proposed Europe GTG
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TeeJay, I hear what you're saying- I used the wrong terminology, function is probably the worst word I could use, as it implies a mechanical basis to derive it's meaning. I'd meant 'function' in the sense of appearing like a genuine rollie, in terms of serving as a watch functionally without aesthetically giving off any clues as to it's lack of similarity to the original. In terms of rep-function, that might be a higher ideal than mechanical fidelity.
Gotcha, bit of a miss-communication, it can happen to the best of us
I see what you're meaning, ie, a watch with the visible parts replaced with gen parts, to the casual observer, is going to appear genuine. Gotcha Of course, any Rolex, genuine, rep or franken, is still always going to be met with "Is that real??" -
I have a couple of 'grouped pairs' in my collection.
Rolex: Modern Sub, and custom-built Sub with GMT function.
Omega: SMPs 2531.80 and 2220.80. Also pairable, is the 2220.80 and 2900.50.91 (Casino Royale watches) I also have a pairing of 2209.50.00 and 2901.50.91.
Panerai: 111h and PVD 111g
I'll try and get some new photos of them all
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I want to buy a 1978 Camero. I figure that, cost of the car, plus importing costs, is going to be less than buying a UK car, which, to be honest, does not 'grab me by the balls' the way this car has (thanks to the Transformers movie for putting a new face to the car) I've done a little scouting about online, and have found prices are reasonable, but, I don't know anything about the legalities or costs of importing, so wondered if anyone here might have any experience or advice?
In terms of cost/condition of car, this is the kind of thing I want to get my hands on:
When I'm finished working on it, I want it to look like this:
Thanks in advance
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After a search in google and ebay it seems that "watch analyzer" is a name used for analyzing quartz models only.
Ahh, I wasn't 100% sure . Surry I couldn't be of more help, best of luck with your search
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From one artist to another, awesome work, brother
From a future client (still waiting for enough spare cash
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I believe they're called 'analysers', but I'm not 100% sure on that...
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In theory, yes, I think the same "tells" apply. Here is where they differ, IMHO.
A woman's judgementalism of another is more physical, than a man's. A man seems to target earning-power objects like cars and indeed, the watch itself. Ours seems to rely on accessories (shoes, jewelry) which CAN be just as expensive sometimes.
But also, it's about overall presentation -- nice manicure, pedicure, good style of hair, quality of clothes. That's not something men are socialised to notice or care about, I think.
Oh indeed, different factors, but overall, the impression created (by whatever means) is that the person with the 'expensive item', might not have 'deep enough pockets' (about as polite a phrase as it gets
) to buy the gen item. It's a bit like seeing a young person driving an expensive car. The automatic assumption is that they're driving a parent's car, rather than it being their own property (as it's a bit harder (but not impossible) to get a fake car )Indeed, things like you've mentioned, a man might not notice, but another woman might, where, to flip the situation, another man might spot a rep watch, but a woman might not. I had my 127 on open display all through boxing day (I had to wear a T-Shirt, as Emily's dad's house is like a sweatbox
) but it did not elicit one comment. Given that he works (at a stretch of the definition) in the watch industry, he should at least have recognized (or rather not recognized it) as an uncommon brand, which might in itself have elicited an enquiry, but not a whisper I guess what I'm trying to say, is that people need to know what they're actually looking at, before the issue of gen/rep can even begin to come into play Have you ever seen the price of a pair of Jimmy Choos?Actually, I have not, but, I have no doubt that they are costly. I've seen Devil Wears Prada enough to know that
It throws some doubt, but not necessarily. In fact, sometimes it's the opposite -- a model which hasn't hit the shops yet elicits surprise, and doubt. Do you remember when the LV Cerises series came out? (Perhaps not. *g*). Certain women were doubtful of the authenticity of said bags at first.I know what you mean, especially as if someone is familiar with a brand's catalogue, an unidentified product can raise suspicion. That said, I didn't know that there was a red-dialled SMP, so when I saw a pic of one, I thought it was a fantasy model, until it was explained that it was for the Asian market, and then it's a case of just not being familiar with a brand's entire catalogue
Nice guy...but then we know him, alas.
You are too kind to give anything. Maybe I would too, but it wouldn't be nice items like Ken's.
Actually, Ken's lovely wallet went to Emily's step-grandfather, her dad got a pen and cuff-links from Narikaa, which, while incredibly nice, were the cheapest of all the presents I gave out, so, although he thought they were expensive (and has been flashing them about for two days in a row
) he got the least spent on him, and even then, that was being over generous. I just didn't want to give him the oportunity to say I hadn't got him anything TeeJay, I am still in your debt, I haven't forgotten! I apologise publicly though, and hope to address this for the New Year!It's honestly not a problem
I have my 127 on it's new dive strap (I'm in a 'scruffy' rather than 'casual' mood today ) I'm possibly giving my 111h away, but, Me So Horny will find a good home on my 029a or PVD 111g (they just might not see much wrist time, as the 127 has really secured it's place as favorite ) I know you've had a lot of things to deal with, so no hurry at all -
Replica handbag makers impacted the way gen handbag makers offer their goods, and their pricing for a "real" handbag which no matter how good the copy, a woman can more easily spot as real or not.
Do you think though, that that is simply the same basic 'brand recognition', which a watch enthusiast can use to tell if someone is wearing a rep or a gen watch, and the same basic principles applying? For example, someone wearing jeans, t-shirt and driving a crappy car, not so likely to be wearing a gen watch. By comparison, a woman wearing shabby clothes and driving a crappy car, not so likely to be carrying a gen handbag. I admit, that 'wearing it, or it wears you' method isn't 100% accurate, and is just an example, but, who's to say that just because someone is carrying last season's handbag, it has to be considered a rep? Maybe they just like the bag
(this comes from the person who has used a promotional PS2 carry bag since the console was launched, simply because it met all my needs, and is now on the verge of structural collapse ) Emily's dad has given her several bags over the years, which, in theory could be (and he passed them off as) genuine, but, knowing the person behind the gift, we highly suspect to be fake. When he saw the Dior bag I got her for Christmas from Ken, it was never questioned, nor were the Mont Blanc pen and cufflinks I gave him. Under any other circumstances, I would say passing a rep item off as a gen item as a gift is an incredibly tacky thing to do, but, I would preface that by pointing out that a) I never actually told him they were gen, he made that assumption (helped by the lovely box the cufflinks came in (thanks to Narikaa for those items ) and b ) bear in mind that this is the man who owes so much in back-payments of childsupport, he will be repaying it untill Emily is in her 30s. (so not really deserving courteous treatment) -
An awesome watch
It took a while (from my first hearing about them) for me to warm up to the 127, but it is now my firm favorite. It's big, and the crystal distorts the markers, but there's something about it which makes it very appealing Wear it well -
Who said they were genuine Rolex? It could be that our meanings of the terms 'function' are different.
You did. Right here:
if a watch has everything gen other than the case/movement, it's functionally and aesthetically a genuine rolexMy point was quite simple:I have a 'vintage 1680' that I paid 10-15% of what I've seen them going for with papers to own. This watch appears every bit the part of the 'real' watch, and as well it should, as almost all of the aesthetically significant parts are genuine. I have no delusion about the actual 'authenticity' of the watch. However, if you look at the relative rep/gen price ratio, they're not a whole lot different than many other reps to own.
A movement might be what makes a watch to you, not necessarily to me if I'm a rep enthusiast. For me, it might the appearance of the watch. Considering you couldn't spot my movement as 'fake' without cracking the caseback, what do I really care if you don't think it's real? This is a rep forum, right?
Damn if it isn't a lot of fun to actually build and source parts for your own watch, and have the ability to use a case that accepts genuine parts to do so. Personally, I think it's one of the cooler things we have at our disposal. Your car example is off in left field somewhere....
Absolutley, you're quite right, this is a rep forum, and indeed, I couldn't care less if a watch has an Asian or Swiss movement in it. Actually, that's not quite true. By choice, I prefer Asian movements. I've found them to be more reliable, but that's just my own experience. Indeed, it doesn't matter what kind of movement it is, I just thought it was funny that you said that if the watch had everything but a gen movement, then it was aesthetically/functionally gen. I admit, it's a Ship of Theseus debate. Say someone has a gen watch, but the movement dies, so it gets taken to a local watch smith who throws in a POS movement. Does that mean the watch is no longer 'genuine'? Of course it doesn't, at least, not to the owner, or anyone knowing the watch's history. If someone were to build, from scratch, the exact same watch, people would be less inclined to consider it 'functionally genuine'. Indeed, it is cool to get parts and build something up, but, at the end of the day, the movement and the case are the most important parts. They're like the foundations of a house, or the canvas on which a masterpiece is painted. Without those key parts, the rest of the watch simply doesn't go together, and, as I said before, as the movement is what makes the watch function, then, if you want the watches functionality to be genuine, then you're going to need a genuine movement. I totally agree with what you've said, I was just amused by the expression you used
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It's still a useful and necessary post, though. The MBK's are no joke. I was a skeptic, felt they were overvalued, but in the end I ended up with a few of them in my permanent collection on the basis of this quality.
I don't even like the modern rollies...but damn if I don't love the vintages...if a watch has everything gen other than the case/movement, it's functionally and aesthetically a genuine rolex- and if you add a datewheel, even the movement is not questionable unless you crack the caseback.
Sorry, dude, but that's just funny
Given a movement is what makes a watch function, without a genuine Rolex movement in it, (and every other part genuine Rolex stock) then such watches will never functionally be genuine Rolex. Don't get me wrong, I really admire the people who build their watches by sourcing parts, and there are some really nice examples on the boards, but, at the end of the day, unless every part in the watch is genuine stock, it will still be a replica. It's a bit like a comment I read on a HotRod forum, where someone wanted to restore a Model T which was in seriously bad condition, with a huge rust problem. Members pointed out, that, due to the sheer amount of metal which would have to be replaced, and using aftermarket parts, by the time the project was completed, it would be considered a 'replica', rather than a 'restoration'. And of course, there's always the Curse of the Rolex, where someone will always ask "Is that real??" -
No need for a side by side, mate... just look at the pictures and let's not just believe what a dealer says.
Have you guys seen the rehaut on the so called MBW 1665? Indeed... a completely different watch and if that's a 1:1 copy my name is Santa Claus
Also the He valve is completely off and the dial print is just fugly.
Sorry if i sound agitated, but I am actually quite upset as i thought Angus wouldn't post cartel-like crap ... but now he does. I also assumed people browsing this forum would be more critical about what is being offered and would have jumped at the so-called MBW 1665 posts instantly...
Psssst
Angus is part of the Cartel... Andrew, Angus, Joshua and King. That it (or certainly was) the membership, unless there have been breakaways from the group...
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Dear Teejay:
They're not "Transformer"; They're "Gundam" Master Guide & Perfect Grade. Another hobbies beside watches........
Best Regards,
Raymond
Ahh, anime models
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Are those Transformers models on the shelf behind you? I have a few dotted around my room, as well as 4 Dalek models which I plan to re-spray to represent the Cult of Skaro. Good to see a fellow collector of such things here
Oh yes, my watch... Well, I haven't had time to get a new wrist shot yet, but I'm still wearing my 127, only with a new honey/tan BOB sharkskin strap my fiance got me for christmas. Way more comfortable than the stock strap (which I 'burst' trying to soften it up
) and it looks great on the watch. I'll try and get some pics when possible Hope folks had a good christmas,
Peace be upon you.
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Thanks, TeeJay! I do have a Spartacus Bund strap, as a matter of fact, from HKTAN. It's too masculine on me.
Maybe it's just the particulars of the strap itself... The bund strap on Emily's J12 is anything but masculine
I'm so sorry to hear of Emily's psoriasis...now that truly is a problem, but hopefully, she copes well!To be honest, she does cope very well, but, that's because it manifested when she was very young (the youngest person in the region to be diagnosed with it), and, at it's most severe, the coverage was apparently very severe. It's eased a lot in the time I've known her, and now is little more than light spotting/dryness around the hairline (smaller area than the Trill-spots painted on Terry Farrell and Nicole deBoer in Sheep Dip Nine
) compared to when we first met, and there was more coverage on her arms, legs, back and torso, but, it seems to be calming down, and strangely, without the benefits of medications, as, eventually, it stopped being effective, but, it then just 'calmed down', so I think it's very much stress-related. Sadly, being an inherited condition (which she got from her scum-bag bio-dad) our children will likely inherit it as well, and have to go through the same... Oh well, here's keeping fingers crossed, and indeed, she does cope well, probably much better than my first post indicated Obviously, people with allergic predispositions (as I am currently) will get these rashes more often, but I wonder if the pricier reps out there are made of less nickel content, or it's all the same?I only say this because I have yet to experience any rashes with the Davidsen PAMs I have...how about those high-end SFSO cases, etc.?
I wouldn't like to say about the price of reps being the factor, but you could well be onto something about the nickel content of the metal. I am still of the opinion that my 127 could be the kind of 'base model' Davidsen then modifies. It appears visually identical to the one you showed a while back, and, when winding the crown, it has the same 'spring-back'/reverse which has been mentioned as being a recurring issue with Davidsen's watches. The only thing I'm not too sure about with regards the movement, is that it is very fiddly finding 'the sweet-spot' to do the reverse-winding/second set function. That said, I suspect Davidsen is putting different movements into his watches, so who knows
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I've been wearing mine on the dive strap for a few days now, and, although it doesn't look 'as smart', as it does on the leather, it certainly looks nice, and, as Emily's step-dad (who insists I should just get a 'more reliable quartz'
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Have you thought about trying a Bund strap? I believe Strap Culture sell them... Could save any contact with the watch from causing a problem
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I would agree the comments about build quality, but cannot give the watch a 'personal thumbs up', as, when I tried one (gen) on, as nice as it was, it just didn't have that "Must by that!" quality. Infact, trying one on actually put me off ordering one...
Other than that though, yes, absolutely awesome watch
Thinking of getting a gen
in General Discussion
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The 2531.80 and 2254.50 are both really nice watches. The 45mm Planet Ocean (2900.50.91) is also a really nice watch, but, on the rubber strap, is a bit hard to get under a shirt cuff, where the other two SMPs are much more versatile.
Cash-wise, an old one will certainly be cheaper than new, but, as you said as with the Panerai (and something I apply to any watch or high-end product) I personally, don't feel that the product justifies the price, so I'd always say save the money by buying a really nice quality rep, and maybe using the remainder (of what a gen would cost) to treat yourself to something else. Of course, if you definitely want to get a gen, then go for it, and best of luck with your hunt